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hfojvt

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19. that's not much of an argument
Sat Sep 8, 2012, 02:57 AM
Sep 2012

Do you buy the GDP?

The US GDP is currently $15 trillion. According to IRS estimates the top .1% got 7.8% of all taxable income. The richest 400 only got 1.59% of all income. Which is only .24 trillion. Divide that by the 400 people and you get just .0006 trillion - a mere 600 million.

Even IF you ASSUME that is off by a factor of ten, and then quadruple it because the richest members of the group are making much more than the "poorest" members of the Fab 400. That's only income of $24 billion per year for the richest person. Even if they saved all of it, and spent none of it on lavish living, it would take 42 years to accumulate $1 trillion.

That's not so long, but one other trouble is that 42 years ago - in 1970, the US GDP was only $1.04 trillion. Also, even as recently as 1995, the Fab 400 were only getting .49% of the total income. Thus, their average income would only be .013 billion or a mere $12.7 million. It becomes even harder to accumulate $1 trillion in wealth if you are "only" making $500 million a year.

But even IF, by some financial miracle, somebody, somewhere, somehow has $1 trillion in wealth. Well, I, with a mere pile of 16 (million) can buy a really, really fancy house with, say $2 million, put my remaining wealth in tax free bonds at 1% interest and take home $140,000 a year tax free. Which happens to be more income than 90% of the rest of the country makes.

Which may be too poor to fall in love, but I am too young to know.

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How Rich People Get Rich [View all] MrScorpio Sep 2012 OP
Rich people make (buy) their own luck so in reality 100% comes from merciless exploitation. nt phasma ex machina Sep 2012 #1
So how would one get from "not rich" to "rich"? hughee99 Sep 2012 #7
They find a wealthy patron who needs some dirty work done. Like Julius Caesar making his services phasma ex machina Sep 2012 #10
I was thinking about Michael Moore, hughee99 Sep 2012 #14
Touche. Allow me to roll back my cynicism a bit. phasma ex machina Sep 2012 #15
They inherit before they exploit usually. n/t brewens Sep 2012 #2
+1000 alittlelark Sep 2012 #3
This is the correct answer. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #4
That first one should read . . . HughBeaumont Sep 2012 #5
Show me a man who made a million from scratch and I'll show you a man who just dimbear Sep 2012 #6
The chart needs to include nepotism n/t drdtroit Sep 2012 #8
Inheritance. Theft. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #9
+1000 baldguy Sep 2012 #22
yeah, what about inheritance? hfojvt Sep 2012 #11
Small fry. How many trillions is Rockefeller or Rothschild worth? The wealthy that mass media never phasma ex machina Sep 2012 #12
so what if there are a few people who are even richer? hfojvt Sep 2012 #13
And I don't buy Forbes for a second. So, we'll just have to agree to disagree. phasma ex machina Sep 2012 #16
that's not much of an argument hfojvt Sep 2012 #19
Harlan Ellison? Mr. It's-not-SciFi-dammit? foo_bar Sep 2012 #17
How many trillions are in offshore trust fund accounts? phasma ex machina Sep 2012 #18
All three in that top diagram could be wedged into a 10% sliver of the bottom one. The Doctor. Sep 2012 #20
They make their money the old fashioned way...... Wounded Bear Sep 2012 #21
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