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csziggy

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3. The grandfather leaned OUT of the window before holding the child out the window
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 02:08 PM
Feb 2020
Surveillance video, the cruise line said, shows Anello leaning out of the open window for about eight seconds just moments before he lifted the little girl.

"This is a case about an adult man," Royal Caribbean said in its motion, "who, as surveillance footage unquestionably confirms: (1) walked up to a window he was aware was open; (2) leaned his upper body out the window for several seconds; (3) reached down and picked up Chloe; and (4) then held her by and out of the open window for thirty four seconds before he lost his grip and dropped Chloe out of the window."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2020/01/17/royal-caribbean-blames-reckless-grandfather-dropped-chloe-wiegand/4499586002/


It's not as if he had no way to know the window was open and let the kid run up to it before she fell out. He leaned out himself, then held the child up and out the window before she dropped.

How can the cruise line be held responsible for those actions?

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Sad all around, but to try to blame the ship was stupid. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #1
people tend to want an all-or-nothing assignment of fault, when often it's a combination unblock Feb 2020 #2
The grandfather leaned OUT of the window before holding the child out the window csziggy Feb 2020 #3
that's how the grandfather was easily 98% at fault unblock Feb 2020 #4
Who holds a child OUTSIDE a window 11 stories above the dock? csziggy Feb 2020 #5
i don't disagree, the grandfather's behavior was clearly grossly irresponsible unblock Feb 2020 #8
I don't think it is reasonable to expect a reasonable person to expect... Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #7
completely false that there has been no antecedent incident. unblock Feb 2020 #9
I didn't say there are absolutely *no* antecedent incidents. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #10
every designer who puts a window in a high place should be aware of this. unblock Feb 2020 #12
It's clear we aren't going to agree on this. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #19
but i don't get why the ship company should be treated as if none of this is any of their business unblock Feb 2020 #21
Locked windows would suck... lame54 Feb 2020 #11
the point is to be safe unblock Feb 2020 #14
Tbe point is to celebrate living... lame54 Feb 2020 #15
Tell that to Eric Clapton unblock Feb 2020 #16
That's why I suggested half open windows... lame54 Feb 2020 #17
This was a "children's play area", not a cabin unblock Feb 2020 #18
So sad... abqtommy Feb 2020 #6
So depressing budkin Feb 2020 #13
I don't get it ripcord Feb 2020 #20
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