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csziggy

(34,189 posts)
5. Who holds a child OUTSIDE a window 11 stories above the dock?
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 02:25 PM
Feb 2020

Even in the earliest versions of the story, the grandfather admits to doing that:

Daughter of South Bend police officer fatally falls from cruise ship in Puerto Rico
Vic Ryckaert and Justin L. Mack, IndyStar Published 9:40 a.m. ET July 8, 2019 | Updated 2:42 p.m. ET July 8, 2019

The 1-year-old daughter of a South Bend police officer died Sunday when authorities say she slipped from her grandfather's hands and fell from a cruise ship docked in Puerto Rico.

According to the Associated Press, the grandfather, identified as Salvatore Anello of Valparaiso, told officers he lost his grip while holding the girl outside a window on the 11th story of Royal Caribbean Cruises ship Freedom of the Seas while it was docked in San Juan, police said Monday.

More: https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2019/07/08/toddler-dies-fall-off-cruise-ship-accident/1671364001/


That indicates that he KNEW the window was open, and he assisted the child in getting past the rails to hold her outside before he lost his grip on her.

The photos of the scene show how difficult it is to do that, considering that the windows lean out to rail height, and that locks on the windows are beyond a child's reach so an adult has to unlock the windows and open them.

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Sad all around, but to try to blame the ship was stupid. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #1
people tend to want an all-or-nothing assignment of fault, when often it's a combination unblock Feb 2020 #2
The grandfather leaned OUT of the window before holding the child out the window csziggy Feb 2020 #3
that's how the grandfather was easily 98% at fault unblock Feb 2020 #4
Who holds a child OUTSIDE a window 11 stories above the dock? csziggy Feb 2020 #5
i don't disagree, the grandfather's behavior was clearly grossly irresponsible unblock Feb 2020 #8
I don't think it is reasonable to expect a reasonable person to expect... Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #7
completely false that there has been no antecedent incident. unblock Feb 2020 #9
I didn't say there are absolutely *no* antecedent incidents. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #10
every designer who puts a window in a high place should be aware of this. unblock Feb 2020 #12
It's clear we aren't going to agree on this. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #19
but i don't get why the ship company should be treated as if none of this is any of their business unblock Feb 2020 #21
Locked windows would suck... lame54 Feb 2020 #11
the point is to be safe unblock Feb 2020 #14
Tbe point is to celebrate living... lame54 Feb 2020 #15
Tell that to Eric Clapton unblock Feb 2020 #16
That's why I suggested half open windows... lame54 Feb 2020 #17
This was a "children's play area", not a cabin unblock Feb 2020 #18
So sad... abqtommy Feb 2020 #6
So depressing budkin Feb 2020 #13
I don't get it ripcord Feb 2020 #20
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