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9. completely false that there has been no antecedent incident.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 03:50 PM
Feb 2020

perhaps not on this particular ship, but windows in high places are not at all uncommon, and there have been many accidents, suicides, and scares.

in many places, probably most places, i hope, building codes prevent situation were windows can be opened, at least not without bars on the windows or a balcony or some other such protections against falls. my guess is that ships may not be subject to any of these as they generally operate under maritime law, but that doesn't mean it isn't a good idea to have such protections.

eric clapton's son died from a fall from an open window in a high-rise, and michael jackson infamously dangled his son over a railing. it's not like such things are unknown.

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Sad all around, but to try to blame the ship was stupid. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #1
people tend to want an all-or-nothing assignment of fault, when often it's a combination unblock Feb 2020 #2
The grandfather leaned OUT of the window before holding the child out the window csziggy Feb 2020 #3
that's how the grandfather was easily 98% at fault unblock Feb 2020 #4
Who holds a child OUTSIDE a window 11 stories above the dock? csziggy Feb 2020 #5
i don't disagree, the grandfather's behavior was clearly grossly irresponsible unblock Feb 2020 #8
I don't think it is reasonable to expect a reasonable person to expect... Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #7
completely false that there has been no antecedent incident. unblock Feb 2020 #9
I didn't say there are absolutely *no* antecedent incidents. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #10
every designer who puts a window in a high place should be aware of this. unblock Feb 2020 #12
It's clear we aren't going to agree on this. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #19
but i don't get why the ship company should be treated as if none of this is any of their business unblock Feb 2020 #21
Locked windows would suck... lame54 Feb 2020 #11
the point is to be safe unblock Feb 2020 #14
Tbe point is to celebrate living... lame54 Feb 2020 #15
Tell that to Eric Clapton unblock Feb 2020 #16
That's why I suggested half open windows... lame54 Feb 2020 #17
This was a "children's play area", not a cabin unblock Feb 2020 #18
So sad... abqtommy Feb 2020 #6
So depressing budkin Feb 2020 #13
I don't get it ripcord Feb 2020 #20
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