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30. Ok.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 05:59 PM
Feb 2020

I said, it is not about the meat in that sense and is more spiritually nuanced. You are taking it too literally, so of course it is going to sound absurd to you since you are tying to fit it into a bias.

The point is, if you give up meat, you give up meat and if you are going to substitute the meat with a very similar meat substitute, then you are not giving up meat in this context. It is simple. It is the concept, not pragmatism.

And yes, it is about sacrifice because, in this context, it is about offering something precious to a deity. You could offer beans or pancakes, too, but this is not about that. Other religions have different kinds of offerings.

If you want to understand it, the history of Lent is interesting because there is a lot more to it and there have been changes over time, actually fasting is more significant than just meat:

These Lenten fasting rules also evolved. Eventually, a smaller repast was allowed during the day to keep up one's strength from manual labor. Eating fish was allowed, and later eating meat was also allowed through the week except on Ash Wednesday and Friday. Dispensations were given for eating dairy products if a pious work was performed, and eventually this rule was relaxed totally. (However, the abstinence from even dairy products led to the practice of blessing Easter eggs and eating pancakes on Shrove Tuesday, the day before Ash Wednesday.)



https://www.catholiceducation.org/en/culture/catholic-contributions/history-of-lent.html

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WTF Thomas Hurt Feb 2020 #1
exactly still_one Feb 2020 #2
Because suffering is the point FiveGoodMen Feb 2020 #8
lol still_one Feb 2020 #22
then you just fast, not do any of this half-assed no meat thing... Thomas Hurt Feb 2020 #32
Its awful, mmbrevo Feb 2020 #61
But they can eat expensive fish and seafood? LisaM Feb 2020 #3
Must have gotten a kickback from Mrs. Paul's Freddie Feb 2020 #4
Or conglomerate owned Gortons. TheBlackAdder Feb 2020 #21
I would love to see their faces when they die maxrandb Feb 2020 #5
Hmm... Newest Reality Feb 2020 #6
OMG!! Laughing so hard I'm crying! Thanks for making my day!! cornball 24 Feb 2020 #11
Oh... Newest Reality Feb 2020 #13
Welp... mbusby Feb 2020 #34
LOL - I must share this! KT2000 Feb 2020 #49
That makes no sense at all C_U_L8R Feb 2020 #7
They don't want anyone finding a loophole in their absolute power over us FiveGoodMen Feb 2020 #10
It is about making a sacrifice. Newest Reality Feb 2020 #15
Beans are not meat C_U_L8R Feb 2020 #23
Ok. Newest Reality Feb 2020 #30
What bias? A vegetable patty is not meat. That's the plain reality of it. C_U_L8R Feb 2020 #35
If I were to say... Newest Reality Feb 2020 #39
I reshape my veggie burger into a fish stick C_U_L8R Feb 2020 #43
It is personal... Newest Reality Feb 2020 #50
Nom nom nomaste :-) C_U_L8R Feb 2020 #54
Tashi Delek! Newest Reality Feb 2020 #56
It's like Mossfern Feb 2020 #37
Yes, it is about making a sacrifce, and if they were talking Impossible Burgers, I'd see the point. LisaM Feb 2020 #27
Fish sticks or bust. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #9
party poopers trof Feb 2020 #12
Recalling George Carlin Zambero Feb 2020 #14
"I had a baloney sandwich." Kingofalldems Feb 2020 #24
Here, 2 patties for $6, it's a bit pricey irisblue Feb 2020 #16
As my mother used to say frazzled Feb 2020 #17
It's really not about the meat, but about making a sacrifice Goodheart Feb 2020 #18
I'm not sure salmon or shrimp or a filet o fish is a bigger sacrifice than fishwax Feb 2020 #20
Of course they're not. Like I said, religion is dumb. Goodheart Feb 2020 #25
the archdiocese didn't really say no fishwax Feb 2020 #19
RawStory strikes again jberryhill Feb 2020 #26
Succinct. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #28
Yes, but it got more hits than Manson was the lead drummer of the monkeys still_one Feb 2020 #62
Heh jberryhill Feb 2020 #64
+++. I do appreciate your words of wisdom. Seriously still_one Feb 2020 #67
Ah, thank you, that clears it up! LisaM Feb 2020 #29
Let's have Lobster instead nini Feb 2020 #31
If you are a member of an indigenous tribe, can you eat marine mammals on Fridays in Lent? jberryhill Feb 2020 #36
A sacrifice... Mendocino Feb 2020 #33
These are literally made from plants. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #38
I had two juicy pork sausages for breakfast, before I remembered it was Ash Wednesday, so that OnDoutside Feb 2020 #40
You're making me hungry. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #46
Rashers, two fried eggs, black and white pudding, a mound of toast and a mug of tea. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #51
You have no heart. You shall be plagued by buckets of unsalted, room temperature oatmeal. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #53
"I had Fish and Chips for dinner though !" Mariana Feb 2020 #65
It was...well maybe not for me ! I got it in the neck from my 13 year old OnDoutside Feb 2020 #69
I'm guessing seitan would be right out, as well al bupp Feb 2020 #41
In the same way a cracker transubstantiates into the meat... ret5hd Feb 2020 #42
"Transubstantiation: The REAL Impossible Burger" tishaLA Feb 2020 #47
Oh man...you know we're the going to hell. ret5hd Feb 2020 #66
So it's still ok to gnaw on those little chunks of Jesus? Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #48
... leftstreet Feb 2020 #52
In compliance with religion in general MyNameGoesHere Feb 2020 #44
This is like during Passover tishaLA Feb 2020 #45
Fish: Meat Without Feet DinahMoeHum Feb 2020 #55
lololol, and people wonder why I am an atheist Celerity Feb 2020 #57
I gave up Church for Lent years ago. N/t alarimer Feb 2020 #58
Do priests have to give up edhopper Feb 2020 #59
Just one more of the 18,257 reasons I am an athiest. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2020 #60
Yet the same Archdiocese (and many others) said it was ok to eat corned beef the last time Tanuki Feb 2020 #63
Meh, beats having them try to tell you Dagstead Bumwood Feb 2020 #68
Whatta dope. Mc Mike Feb 2020 #70
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