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HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
39. sure he is.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 01:57 AM
Sep 2012

Last edited Sun Sep 9, 2012, 02:30 AM - Edit history (1)

Here's a rundown of the various dirty pies warren has his fingers in:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101727422#post1

Buffett is probably one of the biggest beneficiaries of the mortgage bubble fraud + bailout.


here's a good one:

http://inthesetimes.com/working/entry/12612/warren_buffet-owned_companys_prison-made_product_may_have_broke_u.s._law/

Earlier this month, a company owned by Warren Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway—Shaw Industries Group Inc.—admitted to violating Canadian law by shipping flooring made by U.S. prison labor into Canada. But a prison industry expert tells In These Times that the company may have also broken American law by not clearly labeling its goods as partly deriving from prison labor...

While prisoners have traditionally only produced items like state-issued license plates and equipment for governments, many states are now expanding the use of prison labor to produce goods for sale in public markets through a federal program called Prison Industries Certification Enhancement Program (PICEP). There are currently about 200 "factories" in U.S. prisons certified through PICEP that manufacture goods sold on the general market. (Multiple certified "factories" can be located in the same prison.)

...probably close to a million inmates are working full-time in jails and prisons throughout the United States” (These prisoners in some cases produce goods for as little as 23 cents an hour.



The poster comments:

Lastly, let me turn to Buffett and his widely played remarks calling for higher taxes on the rich for capital gains and dividends.

Buffett owns HUGE shares in companies, he cannot easily pull out of a stock without destroying its market value. He also is known for long term holding, and reaping huge profits, and if his companies get in trouble, he goes running to the government to bail him out.

So, what better to ensure a stock's price than raising the penalty on ALL OTHERS for pulling out by taxing that capital gain at a much higher rate. He is actually calling for the government to force people to stay in stocks much longer than they would have, due to tax penalties. Meanwhile, he completely benefits, as this captive group of investors now is much less likely to abandon the firms that he holds huge shares in. Meanwhile Buffett and his fellow ilk will use ultra-complicated (and previously illegal) accounting methods to offset the increase in taxes he would have paid via losses that he will say he incurred.

I completely agree the truly rich should pay more, as the US tax system is designed to smash small and medium sized firms, whilst the big multinationals, who basically wrote the tax code through lobbyist pressure, pay next to nothing. But Warren Buffett's plans are a sham, a scheme, and also will hurt, once again the small investor and small businesses, who employ 70% of all Americans.


Please recognize buffett's 'folksy' reputation for what it is -- A public relations-generated image that has nothing to do with the real man. You don't get to be the richest person in the world by being a nice guy. Period.

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Sounds like he's ripe to be converted. woolldog Sep 2012 #1
ooo, good strategy. laundry_queen Sep 2012 #37
Whew!!! For a moment I thought you were saying he should be converted to Dem nanabugg Sep 2012 #48
Some people are too far gone to ever vote Dem woolldog Sep 2012 #51
How big was the shovel ? russspeakeasy Sep 2012 #2
I'm sure it wasn't big enough davidpdx Sep 2012 #49
He sounds like an asshole, but I wish we'd stop with "all rich people...." cali Sep 2012 #3
if they are using the system to not pay taxes, etc. DonRedwood Sep 2012 #8
well yeah, but you sure didn't address my point. cali Sep 2012 #10
Maybe because it's the usual "Tsk tsking". ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2012 #19
nope, actually, I'll concede the point. DonRedwood Sep 2012 #22
and edited as per your request DonRedwood Sep 2012 #23
That's the comment that would have got me swinging the shovel at his head. What a fuck-wad. - n/t coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #62
Absolutely. CBHagman Sep 2012 #11
Agreed. Warren Buffet is rich and he's not an asshole. LittlestStar Sep 2012 #18
Being super rich while people starve to death makes you kind of an asshole DonRedwood Sep 2012 #25
sure he is. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #39
Buffet gave $37 billion to Gate's Foundation. ErikJ Sep 2012 #46
That's the PR face. It sounds good, but when you learn a bit more about how foundations HiPointDem Sep 2012 #47
I've been pointing that out for a while. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #57
don't bite the hand etc. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #61
What he did is called THEFT ... zbdent Sep 2012 #4
It's called "imposing on the merchant's good will"... JHB Sep 2012 #15
Write an "anonymous letter" to the store owner zbdent Sep 2012 #16
Better yet, sign the note Ayn Rand davidpdx Sep 2012 #50
Better yet, write an attributed letter and tell him to refuse service to the guy. Occulus Sep 2012 #52
Poor guy; maybe he just needs another tax break. Cobalt Violet Sep 2012 #5
he lives off trust fun and gifts.... no taxes for him, I don't think DonRedwood Sep 2012 #38
that's why stores have restocking fees for certain items. Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 #6
yeah, but then we buy them as "new" merchandise when they put them back on the shelf DonRedwood Sep 2012 #9
I agree and my words for these people are "sleazy" "cheesy" and "cheap"....n/t whathehell Sep 2012 #13
you sure they put them back on the shelf? shanti Sep 2012 #54
"How long can we take these people leeching on us and our society?" They will IMO RKP5637 Sep 2012 #7
Do it with a new shovel, and then return it jberryhill Sep 2012 #12
jberry...y'all get the best response award. DonRedwood Sep 2012 #40
. Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #41
Obviously he is a user and taker...where is his self worth? riverbendviewgal Sep 2012 #14
Well, at least he let the neighbors use it for free. Cleita Sep 2012 #17
I do accounting now, and you are right. Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #24
I had clients who ran little corporations for their personal needs Cleita Sep 2012 #31
And I am sure that this is illegal. Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #34
Odd, I just had this same sort of conversation with a Repug neighbor. Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #20
my family is the opposite almost DonRedwood Sep 2012 #42
You will never regret being too honest. Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #60
Should have told him to write in Ron Paul tjwash Sep 2012 #21
Go ahead whack him. Smickey Sep 2012 #26
225 years and counting. Confiscatory inheritance taxes are the answer. This class has Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #27
It's bad behavior for sure lordsummerisle Sep 2012 #28
not my first go around with him....he's done equal or worse things before...gambling thousands away DonRedwood Sep 2012 #43
The difference is that the rich can actually afford them. Sirveri Sep 2012 #45
What a piece of SCUM CountAllVotes Sep 2012 #29
Please don't whack your neighbor... Alwaysna Sep 2012 #30
lol! thank you for that VERY sensible advice. DonRedwood Sep 2012 #44
that's what you call "freewashing" stupidicus Sep 2012 #32
The appeal of Republicans is to the selfish nature of people NeeDeep Sep 2012 #33
I have heard the same romney issue from at least a half dozen republicans. FedUpWithIt All Sep 2012 #35
I heard that once from one person. savalez Sep 2012 #58
Throw the "get a job" taunt back in their faces meow2u3 Sep 2012 #36
Spam deleted by Paulie (MIR Team) babulgame Sep 2012 #53
GOP the party of grift. That's only when they buy it,; it they borrow it, that's another story. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #55
Tell him to get off his lazy ass and get a job. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #56
I think with people like this you can always say "At least Obama has been vetted." TNLib Sep 2012 #59
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