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HiPointDem

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47. That's the PR face. It sounds good, but when you learn a bit more about how foundations
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 04:31 AM
Sep 2012

Last edited Sun Sep 9, 2012, 05:11 AM - Edit history (1)

work and what they do, it doesn't sound as good.

1) The wealth is not 'given away' -- it remains under the control of captive boards (if the donors are saavy enough to set things up to ensure that, & i'm sure warren is). In the case of the gates foundation, warren is currently on the board, & i'm sure his kids or some proxy will be when he dies.

Warren is not giving BH stock away all at once, or even at his death: it is being given bit by bit each year, and only so long as there are Gates family on the foundation board.

Only 5% of foundation assets must actually be 'given away' each year, which means on average, foundation principal will grow, not shrink.

2) Foundation capital is subject to no or very minimal taxation.

Q: How does a private charitable foundation lower my personal tax liability?
A: You as Founder can contribute up to 30% of your "adjusted gross income" which lowers the amount your tax is figured on and also lowers the %. This can be in cash or in personally owned assets. For example, a W-2 income of $100,000 can create a $28,000 tax liability; donating $30,000 to your foundation reduces that liability to $19,600, and saves you $8,400. For operating foundations 50% can be donated; in the same example as above, a $50,000 donation saves you even more. Results are dramatic for all tax brackets.

Q: Does my foundation have a required annual payout instead of paying taxes?
A: Yes. "Qualified Distributions" equal 5% of the average value of invested assets. (This 5% includes a 1-2% excise tax.) Distributions are paid out for administration and expenses, and to charitable activities of your choice.

Q: What taxes is my foundation exempt from?
A: Federal income tax, capital gains tax, estate and gift taxes. It also is exempt from sales tax on purchases it makes, and property taxes in some counties.

Q: You mean that it pays no capital gains on real estate or investments? Ever?
A: Correct.


Q: Who has control and makes the decisions for the foundation?
A: You and the Board of Trustees which you appoint.


http://www.the7thfire.com/freedom_sovereignty/private_foundations.html

3) Foundation investments can be and are used as financial & political weapons to steer the (global) economy & politics in desired directions -- for example, as the gates foundation is currently using theirs to privatize public education, marketize remaining peasant economies, promote genetically modified crops, and buy off scientists and others.

To take one little-known example of foundation influence -- they influence the cases the supreme court takes and the decisions they make.

http://journal.telospress.com/content/1984/62/59.short

Having insider information about what the foundation will be investing in is also useful when making one's private investments.

Foundations can also be used to prop up or crash stocks.

4) The 'investments' made by foundations are subject to no democratic oversight by the larger society, just the desires and power grabs of a handful of rich people. I doubt a majority of americans, or even world citizens, want an agriculture dominated by proprietary genetically modified crops, but that's what we're going to get -- and gates and buffett (his son's foundation is also significantly pushing this sector) are a large reason for that. Gates & Buffett are tightly partnered with Monsanto, for example.

5) Foundation actors can and do act in concert, moving huge amounts of capital to achieve their goals -- as Gates, Walton, and other foundation players are currently doing in education -- though as representative 'liberal' and 'conservative' actors, they are supposedly playing for different political 'teams'.

6) High-paid foundation jobs can provide nice sinecures for heirs, political payoffs, etc. Not to mention pay their health insurance & pensions, transportation including personal vehicles, furnish other tax writeoffs, etc.

7) There is also a certain amount of 'charitable immunity' in the law -- meaning that the foundation is somewhat immune from responsibility for harm it does, lawsuits, etc. In a number of states trust assets are completely immune.

8) Foundation grants are a means of controlling and in effect 'buying off' local/regional activist or charitable organizations that otherwise might cause trouble for the big boys, and to direct their activities into 'safe' channels.

The rise of foundation funding is probably the reason there are so many people to 'good works' out there while nothing much ever changes in the big picture and the need grows greater.


There is a reason that every wealthy person (and a lot of less wealthy ones) has their own foundations these days, and a reason that buffett set up his kids with their own foundations, as well as control of one in his wife's name -- let alone whatever private trusts he's set up for the kiddies. The reason is that you get to keep control of the money, no matter what the press releases say. People don't get to be rich as croseus because they're good guys who want to help other people. They get that way because they have a single-minded devotion to accumulating money and power.


Warren Buffett choose to celebrate the 82nd year of his life in a different way, announcing that he is donating shares of his company equivalent to $3.1 billion to his three kids’ foundations.

In 2006, Buffett made an initial contribution to the three foundations of 17.5 million Class B shares of his firm, Berkshire Hathaway. In an open letter published Thursday, he announced to his three children, Peter, Susan, and Howard, that he would be upping that donation by 12.2 million shares each by next July, decreasing by 5 percent per year subsequently.


In this pathbreaking study of foundation influence, author Joan Roelofs produces a comprehensive picture of philanthropy's critical role in society. She shows how a vast number of policy innovations have arisen from the most important foundations, lessening the destructive impact of global "marketization." Conversely, groups and movements that might challenge the status quo are nudged into line with grants and technical assistance, and foundations also have considerable power to shape such things as public opinion, higher education, and elite ideology. The cumulative effect is that foundations, despite their progressive goals, have a depoliticizing effect, one that preserves the hegemony of neoliberal institutions.

http://www.sunypress.edu/p-3716-foundations-and-public-policy.aspx

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Sounds like he's ripe to be converted. woolldog Sep 2012 #1
ooo, good strategy. laundry_queen Sep 2012 #37
Whew!!! For a moment I thought you were saying he should be converted to Dem nanabugg Sep 2012 #48
Some people are too far gone to ever vote Dem woolldog Sep 2012 #51
How big was the shovel ? russspeakeasy Sep 2012 #2
I'm sure it wasn't big enough davidpdx Sep 2012 #49
He sounds like an asshole, but I wish we'd stop with "all rich people...." cali Sep 2012 #3
if they are using the system to not pay taxes, etc. DonRedwood Sep 2012 #8
well yeah, but you sure didn't address my point. cali Sep 2012 #10
Maybe because it's the usual "Tsk tsking". ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2012 #19
nope, actually, I'll concede the point. DonRedwood Sep 2012 #22
and edited as per your request DonRedwood Sep 2012 #23
That's the comment that would have got me swinging the shovel at his head. What a fuck-wad. - n/t coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #62
Absolutely. CBHagman Sep 2012 #11
Agreed. Warren Buffet is rich and he's not an asshole. LittlestStar Sep 2012 #18
Being super rich while people starve to death makes you kind of an asshole DonRedwood Sep 2012 #25
sure he is. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #39
Buffet gave $37 billion to Gate's Foundation. ErikJ Sep 2012 #46
That's the PR face. It sounds good, but when you learn a bit more about how foundations HiPointDem Sep 2012 #47
I've been pointing that out for a while. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #57
don't bite the hand etc. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #61
What he did is called THEFT ... zbdent Sep 2012 #4
It's called "imposing on the merchant's good will"... JHB Sep 2012 #15
Write an "anonymous letter" to the store owner zbdent Sep 2012 #16
Better yet, sign the note Ayn Rand davidpdx Sep 2012 #50
Better yet, write an attributed letter and tell him to refuse service to the guy. Occulus Sep 2012 #52
Poor guy; maybe he just needs another tax break. Cobalt Violet Sep 2012 #5
he lives off trust fun and gifts.... no taxes for him, I don't think DonRedwood Sep 2012 #38
that's why stores have restocking fees for certain items. Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 #6
yeah, but then we buy them as "new" merchandise when they put them back on the shelf DonRedwood Sep 2012 #9
I agree and my words for these people are "sleazy" "cheesy" and "cheap"....n/t whathehell Sep 2012 #13
you sure they put them back on the shelf? shanti Sep 2012 #54
"How long can we take these people leeching on us and our society?" They will IMO RKP5637 Sep 2012 #7
Do it with a new shovel, and then return it jberryhill Sep 2012 #12
jberry...y'all get the best response award. DonRedwood Sep 2012 #40
. Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #41
Obviously he is a user and taker...where is his self worth? riverbendviewgal Sep 2012 #14
Well, at least he let the neighbors use it for free. Cleita Sep 2012 #17
I do accounting now, and you are right. Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #24
I had clients who ran little corporations for their personal needs Cleita Sep 2012 #31
And I am sure that this is illegal. Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #34
Odd, I just had this same sort of conversation with a Repug neighbor. Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #20
my family is the opposite almost DonRedwood Sep 2012 #42
You will never regret being too honest. Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #60
Should have told him to write in Ron Paul tjwash Sep 2012 #21
Go ahead whack him. Smickey Sep 2012 #26
225 years and counting. Confiscatory inheritance taxes are the answer. This class has Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #27
It's bad behavior for sure lordsummerisle Sep 2012 #28
not my first go around with him....he's done equal or worse things before...gambling thousands away DonRedwood Sep 2012 #43
The difference is that the rich can actually afford them. Sirveri Sep 2012 #45
What a piece of SCUM CountAllVotes Sep 2012 #29
Please don't whack your neighbor... Alwaysna Sep 2012 #30
lol! thank you for that VERY sensible advice. DonRedwood Sep 2012 #44
that's what you call "freewashing" stupidicus Sep 2012 #32
The appeal of Republicans is to the selfish nature of people NeeDeep Sep 2012 #33
I have heard the same romney issue from at least a half dozen republicans. FedUpWithIt All Sep 2012 #35
I heard that once from one person. savalez Sep 2012 #58
Throw the "get a job" taunt back in their faces meow2u3 Sep 2012 #36
Spam deleted by Paulie (MIR Team) babulgame Sep 2012 #53
GOP the party of grift. That's only when they buy it,; it they borrow it, that's another story. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #55
Tell him to get off his lazy ass and get a job. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #56
I think with people like this you can always say "At least Obama has been vetted." TNLib Sep 2012 #59
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