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In reply to the discussion: Mr. President, the GayTM is no longer in service. [View all]suffragette
(12,232 posts)247. Sounds like doubling down on the wrong to me.
Making a choice to invite someone who represents the opposite values and platform of civil rights, diversity and inclusion from the Democratic Party to speak sends a mixed message of what the Party supports or not.
Choosing to invite someone who is a Republican ally out of concern for how that ally would view this or respond and/or out of concern for how Murdoch's empire would report it is absurd. Dolan will still find things to whine about. And so will the NY Post, as if Murdoch's empire isn't just going to latch on and/or create scandals out of anything real or imaginary they can think of anyway.
And yes, this was a CHOICE to invite Dolan and give him a platform to spread hate.
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wasnt aimed at you. you gave a reasoned argument not a snide little comment
loli phabay
Sep 2012
#22
disagreement is not bigotry. that's a huge stretch there because someone doesn't agree with you
progressivebydesign
Sep 2012
#172
While my feelings are different than Pab Sungenis I find your response painful.
Ms. Toad
Sep 2012
#65
I did not see the ending convocation. That said, the entire week was one of inclusion & empowerment
hlthe2b
Sep 2012
#7
I wasn't implying you were saying so. Actually, I responded to your post in agreement with you
hlthe2b
Sep 2012
#18
I think you all should BE the folks with strong and righteous conviction refusing to accept this.
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2012
#90
It was done for the exact same reason anything that caused complaints at this convention was done
dmallind
Sep 2012
#57
Who ever's fault it was....yep there's that lack of accountability again....
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2012
#88
Are you making excuses for it? No, you are not. I said 'excuse making straight people'
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2012
#193
I enjoy your posts and I appreciate the support you are expressing in this thread.
yardwork
Sep 2012
#197
They had one of the "Nuns on the Bus," and frankly, did you hear a speaker that did not talk about
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#121
I am not convinced by your assessment of the political consequences of declining the invite.
Vattel
Sep 2012
#41
It would have started a pissing match because Dolan is a repuke ally and would have whined about it.
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#102
I was hoping that Dems were finally done with giving their lunch money to RW bullies
Zorra
Sep 2012
#224
"Have a pissing match with a Catholic Cardinal 60 days before an election? "
NCTraveler
Sep 2012
#56
You are my 7th direct reply. So, yeah, people are addressing my point, thanks. nt
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#104
The point is Dolan could have spent a lot of time screaming about how Dems are attacking religion
jeff47
Sep 2012
#209
Obama/Biden/Clinton/Granholm: THEY spoke for us. Dolan was rope-a-doped, a useful idiot.
WinkyDink
Sep 2012
#8
Useful in catching any stray conservative Catholics. "Hey, Ma! Look who spoke for Obama!"
WinkyDink
Sep 2012
#14
problem is thats not how some people see it. you gotta realise we all have different
loli phabay
Sep 2012
#34
yup and thats your call to make. i would no more attack you for complaining
loli phabay
Sep 2012
#50
yup we all ha e different causes and its hard sometimes to wear the other persons heels
loli phabay
Sep 2012
#55
So you are saying that the mention of LGBT issues was for HIM? So all of those mentions were
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2012
#91
he should have had a speaker from every religion then. you know. to catch all the strays.
piratefish08
Sep 2012
#48
Don't do that. It ended with Dolan, Dolan had the last and final word, and that word was
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2012
#95
What looks like a "card" to you has significant consequences for the lives of real people.
sibelian
Sep 2012
#161
Please think about what you just posted. Would you have said, "Don't push your luck" to a person
Heidi
Sep 2012
#238
I've got my ice skates on, and Satan just ordered Hitler to rev up the Zamboni......
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#35
Oh silly, we learned from the Rick Warren gig, and we do not do stuff like that...oh nevermind.
Safetykitten
Sep 2012
#44
It was a terrible choice.....I'm going to give the DNC the benefit of the doubt.....
marmar
Sep 2012
#51
You could have any number of religious figures close the convention that supports equality
justiceischeap
Sep 2012
#96
Yes, as a matter of fact Dolan did "spew homophobia" and he publicly repudiated the Dem platform.
yardwork
Sep 2012
#77
I agree with you - it was appalling but in no way ruins the rest of a great convention.
yardwork
Sep 2012
#176
I'd like to see the Democratic community stand up and reject that message loudly
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2012
#103
+ a hundred bazillion. I don't view one incident as a reason to turn my back on my fellow americans.
progressivebydesign
Sep 2012
#170
'Purists' 'ponies'! You know what? This is what drives ME nuts in every election.
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#225
I believe our Democratic leaders are going to continue to advance the cause of equality
jberryhill
Sep 2012
#146
Wow a post from a "gay" contributor that overreacts and offers no facts as to the back ground and
slampoet
Sep 2012
#98
Wow, a Democratic event featuring anti gay rhetoric to please the Straight Community
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2012
#187
Well go luck with that. See if you will find what you are looking for any place else. I'm catholic
southernyankeebelle
Sep 2012
#133
So when you see your neighbor subjected to libel and injustice, you just look the other way?
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2012
#184
If my neighbor needed me I would be there in a second. You only can control the tv by muting or
southernyankeebelle
Sep 2012
#195
Repealed DADT and spoke out for Marriage Equality, not defending DOMA....I think he's doing okay
TeamPooka
Sep 2012
#134
I am glad that you do not speak for every gay person, even though you think that you do.
Ikonoklast
Sep 2012
#148
Cool. I think you and your friends will really enjoy life under President Romney.
progressivebydesign
Sep 2012
#169
It's not just gay folks who are offended, but all feminists and child protection advocates as well.
yardwork
Sep 2012
#198
Unfortunately, there's about 40 years of work by conservative religious figures that has to be
jeff47
Sep 2012
#216
Wouldn't this statement have more weight behind it had you been doing those things before now?
Bolo Boffin
Sep 2012
#204