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emulatorloo

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39. An analogy: I have read several Glenn Beck rants. They are full of fact twisting, half-truths,

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 07:10 PM

Jan 2012

insane speculation and paranoid fantasy. I know what Glenn Beck is all about now.

I am not going to waste time reading every new Glenn Beck rant and deal "substantively with the critique"

That would be insane.

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Firedoglake used to be an excellent blog, it was the first thing I read everyday for a while. Very thoughtful, fact based analysis.

They are in a whole 'nother place now - Wild speculation as fact, incessant negative spin about democrats, sensationalistic "The Sky Is Falling" headlines and so forth.

They simply are no longer a credible source as far as I am concerned. In my humble opinion, the shift in tone came around the time they decided to make the site a money-making proposition.

One of the big turning points for me was an appearance by Ms. Hamsher on the Lawrence O'donnell show. She was part of a panel discussion. In my opinion she seemed more about good sounding hyperbolic statements than an actual grounding in facts.

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