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Ms. Toad

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86. I would be very surprised

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 08:35 PM

Jan 2012

if cancer disappears as a pre-existing condition - ever.

We can 't get health insurance on our own - but I've had to fill out numerous applications at work each time we change carriers. Try being headed for a liver transplant (or possibly multiple liver transplants) at a cost of around a half million each (not to mention ongoing anti-rejection meds) & having a second disease since she was 4 that (at the moment) is associated with a 25% risk of colon cancer, and smaller risks of liver, pancreatic, or bladder cancer - and having another family member in the early stages of Alzheimers. We must have been really, really bad. But - I digress. Some questions are time limited; I don't believe cancer is on any of the applications we've filled out.

But yeah, Santorum's statements are unconscionable - particularly since he has had two children born with pre-existing conditions (trisomy 18 and a urinary tract blockage).

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Santorum to Mother of Cancer Survivor: Sick to Blame for Pre-Existing Conditions Should Be Charged [View all] sinkingfeeling Jan 2012 OP

The entire point of insurance is to spread any costs group wide. Trillo Jan 2012 #1

Risk sharing left the model a while ago. It's all about risk mitigation now.... Scuba Jan 2012 #2

He's torn between two impulses nxylas Jan 2012 #6

nice reference to Scrooge there.... Tom1960 Jan 2012 #65

he deserves google. he is the very definition of it. roguevalley Jan 2012 #32

+1 fortyfeetunder Jan 2012 #113

+1! nt CherylK Jan 2012 #141

no, the entire point of private health insurance is one thing - PROFIT, destroy it and go to stockholmer Jan 2012 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jan 2012 #3

You love the word 'fuck,' I see. i was a cathar Jan 2012 #15

If you decide to stick around, you may discover that we sometimes curse. 11 Bravo Jan 2012 #18

I don't got me no pearls to clutch. i was a cathar Jan 2012 #22

I get that, but perhaps you might consider waiting until at least your second day at DU ... 11 Bravo Jan 2012 #25

In all fairness.... TheEuclideanOne Jan 2012 #68

I bet you don't even got no fucking cows to come home. undeterred Jan 2012 #76

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #81

try this The Wizard Jan 2012 #123

LOL..n/t whathehell Jan 2012 #71

To each his own slay Jan 2012 #26

Re: "I tend to keep my ... markpkessinger Jan 2012 #43

Well, I don't guess I "try" to keep them to a minimum - it just kind of happens that way slay Jan 2012 #52

Speaking of Santorum TheEuclideanOne Jan 2012 #69

Good point slay Jan 2012 #78

That creep Santorum inspires me to curse, more than any other candidate. Quantess Jan 2012 #89

hoping someone will meet him in NH with a "get out of my crotch" sign wordpix Jan 2012 #93

He is vile, but Gingrich is the king of hateable. nt Lucky Luciano Jan 2012 #100

If Gingrich is the one who gets your blood pressure and nausea rising, I can see why! Quantess Jan 2012 #105

LOL @ free speech on DU! sivansanabliss Jan 2012 #128

Excuse me - would you care to elaborate? slay Jan 2012 #136

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #29

And he is already gone again. PA Democrat Jan 2012 #41

he posted Charlemagne Jan 2012 #83

consider sadtorum told sick people to fuck off and die, the wordage was appropriate roguevalley Jan 2012 #33

Agreed. n/t whathehell Jan 2012 #73

Niceley Said .... But ... Royal-T Jan 2012 #49

I assess the effectiveness of the word, overused or no, according to the speaker. crim son Jan 2012 #50

THAT is what offends you? THAT??? Zoeisright Jan 2012 #110

It just disgusts me is all. sivansanabliss Jan 2012 #129

There's sure some fucking thing about that fucking fucker that fucking makes me want to say "fuck." Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2012 #27

P- RICK Santorum loves to fuck and had seven kids to prove it julian09 Jan 2012 #137

sniff, sniff fascisthunter Jan 2012 #80

I really like the word: jonthebru Jan 2012 #91

My 84 year old mother ohheckyeah Jan 2012 #107

Fuck yeah. Rozlee Jan 2012 #92

Hating Santorum IS classy. nt valerief Jan 2012 #97

WTF bpj62 Jan 2012 #4

As The Mother Of A Cancer Surviving Kid HangOnKids Jan 2012 #5

God bless you both of you. Don't be down from him. he's sick in the head himself. roguevalley Jan 2012 #37

We Are Keepin On HangOnKids Jan 2012 #46

Me too. What exactly did my sister do that caused her to get breast cancer, Rick? SlimJimmy Jan 2012 #8

your sister is good. she is innocent. Santorum on the other hand is sick in the head roguevalley Jan 2012 #38

She's a survivor, so thankfully, I *will* be able to giver her a hug. SlimJimmy Jan 2012 #88

this guy sure shows his ignorance newspeak Jan 2012 #133

Why is it Blacksheep214 Jan 2012 #62

Sorry and very good response to the creep Santorum wordpix Jan 2012 #94

WOW BobbyBoring Jan 2012 #12

I wish I could rec this post and strongly suggest you consider coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #23

I wholeheartedly support everything you just said slay Jan 2012 #28

Add my neice, now 16, who was 2 when she was diagnosed with cancer. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #35

I wish you and your son the best in hope and wellness. don't let a roguevalley Jan 2012 #36

More offensive than fuck to many here hootinholler Jan 2012 #56

Rick, I COULDN'T make the choice to have rheumatoid arthritis! Joe Bacon Jan 2012 #57

You and your son are in my thoughts. Brickbat Jan 2012 #77

As an obviously caring parent and person, tpsbmam Jan 2012 #79

I would be very surprised Ms. Toad Jan 2012 #86

I can only hope that your child continues to be well. olegramps Jan 2012 #121

wow Skittles Jan 2012 #142

his comment was both ignorant and heartless noiretextatique Jan 2012 #147

I had to rec sellitman Jan 2012 #7

gives you an idea just how incredibly stupid his followers are. rurallib Jan 2012 #13

Jesus refused to cure the sick because they could not pay him, right? nt Deep13 Jan 2012 #9

I didn't know cancer was caused by 'poor health care choices' LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2012 #10

So...in all due respect i was a cathar Jan 2012 #21

We swim in a sea of toxins, not of our own choice, people have unfortunate genetics, did they chose diane in sf Jan 2012 #30

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #31

You seem to have all of the answers. PA Democrat Jan 2012 #39

Sounds like you might be voting for Santorum. sarcasmo Jan 2012 #53

If there is indeed a connection between cell phones and cancer, crim son Jan 2012 #54

I have type 1 diabetes. There sometimes really is no reason why people get cancer or auto immune Jennicut Jan 2012 #58

Don't you have a Republic to Free? whathehell Jan 2012 #74

In case you're confused, this is a bash frothy Man on Dog tavalon Jan 2012 #116

In that regards, what illness would not be preventable? Going to work/school exposes you to things The Straight Story Jan 2012 #119

so - what exactly are the women doing to get breast cancer?? Skittles Jan 2012 #143

It might be the aluminum in the antiperspirant tavalon Jan 2012 #144

It can be, but so what? Deep13 Jan 2012 #101

Huh? I am still translating that headline... i was a cathar Jan 2012 #11

let's be clear ... napkinz Jan 2012 #14

Oh, if only someone had a custard pie... Joe Bacon Jan 2012 #59

Bad things happen to bad people. So, interfering with those bad things, is playing God. Says hypocri WingDinger Jan 2012 #16

actually, I see that some people who do very evil things newspeak Jan 2012 #134

"just world" fallacy noiretextatique Jan 2012 #149

Whoa, Christianity at its best Iliyah Jan 2012 #17

CHINO's handmade34 Jan 2012 #132

The right wing wants to judge who should be helped. The ultimate solution. Just like gassing J#ws WingDinger Jan 2012 #19

But not his own daughter. He believes that she deserves special consideration. yardwork Jan 2012 #20

What about his wife's failed pregnancy, that ended with abortion? crim son Jan 2012 #55

Good one...He's a complete and utter Asshat, not to insult Asshats. whathehell Jan 2012 #75

I don't get what he's talking about Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #66

Yes. See link below. yardwork Jan 2012 #96

Santorum also claims that after he lost his Senate seat he had to buy insurance for his family PA Democrat Jan 2012 #131

Santorum did have an employer who was a health care provider at that time. A criminal enterprise. yardwork Jan 2012 #148

This is why we need universal health care - so assholes like Santorum can't prey on the sick slay Jan 2012 #24

I swear my blood pressure spiked about a hundred points when I heard this story. Vinca Jan 2012 #34

I think he and Romney have tied for 'biggest asshole". Check out coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #47

Dogs Against Romney noiretextatique Jan 2012 #150

Thanks for the link. Just liked it. - n/t coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #151

welcome nt noiretextatique Jan 2012 #152

You know I hope moveon.org or some one does an ad with Santorum town hall meeting words Justice wanted Jan 2012 #40

WTF NancyRamirez Jan 2012 #42

Sanitory is unfeeling Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2012 #44

He really thinks sickness is a CONSUMER CHOICE? Warpy Jan 2012 #45

What an evil piece of worm ridden filth. I think old Ricky is breathing my sure. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #48

Yeah, having my pancreas crap out on me is my fault. Thanks Rick. Jennicut Jan 2012 #51

And my husband did exactly what his doctor told him to do catrose Jan 2012 #114

I know. I have heard of Syndrome X. Jennicut Jan 2012 #154

I wonder mainstreetonce Jan 2012 #60

Thanks for the solid argument in favor of Single Payer, frothy. AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #61

He is a fucking cretin and deserves to rot in hell where he belongs. williesgirl Jan 2012 #63

I was going to call him a pile of mierda...... marmar Jan 2012 #64

Yeah, right....poor choices caused my multiple sclerosis......riiiiiiight, asshole tpsbmam Jan 2012 #67

heartless. i watched him say this. not a shred of compassion. fuck the sick. it's their fault. spanone Jan 2012 #70

Wha da fuck??!! You know my mother used to say that noone knows Ecumenist Jan 2012 #72

My family has all died of cancer, eyewall Jan 2012 #82

How can you say that we have nothing whatsoever to do with dis-ease? sivansanabliss Jan 2012 #130

what did his wife go greymattermom Jan 2012 #84

Sanitorium needs to stop supporting the rich polluters Dont call me Shirley Jan 2012 #85

I will admit his proclivity for sticking his foot in his mouth is great entertainment! backscatter712 Jan 2012 #87

Do you ever get this urge? Canuckistanian Jan 2012 #90

I know that feeling well Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #98

Sounds a lot like he's endorsing an actuarial death-panel. Snarkoleptic Jan 2012 #95

Another reminder that the pukes are pro-fetus, not pro-life. muntrv Jan 2012 #99

damn right 47of74 Jan 2012 #103

Santorum hates the poor, the sick, and anyone who does not fit his norm... Deep13 Jan 2012 #102

Up yours, Santorum 47of74 Jan 2012 #104

Jeezus Keryst, Santorum! MrScorpio Jan 2012 #106

Jesus weeps. nt mikekohr Jan 2012 #127

Santorum couldn't afford insurance ohheckyeah Jan 2012 #108

So why doesn't someone like inSanitorium get cancer? Zoeisright Jan 2012 #109

And this man is considered a frontrunner for the highest office in the land? AllyCat Jan 2012 #111

Republicans are pure scum workinclasszero Jan 2012 #112

He doesn't even have to try to be an asshole tavalon Jan 2012 #115

Sick people should pay more? KrazyinKS Jan 2012 #117

That's right. We need a guy in the White House who doesn't even understand how insurance works. Turbineguy Jan 2012 #118

In fairness to Pennsylvania voters The Wizard Jan 2012 #126

What an a$$hole. They DO pay more. More doctors visits. geckosfeet Jan 2012 #120

gee that`s a really good way to make friends and influence people.... madrchsod Jan 2012 #122

The Masks are really coming off. paparush Jan 2012 #124

The sound in the distance is The Wizard Jan 2012 #125

This guy..... is a real winner. Corruption Winz Jan 2012 #135

I'm 100% Rick Santorum on that. . . JustAnotherGen Jan 2012 #138

Stupid is as stupid does,,,, benld74 Jan 2012 #139

Was parenting a child at the age of fifty a good health choice, Ricky rocktivity Jan 2012 #145

So Santorum "does" support the GOP Heathcare plan of Die Quickly, how interesting. cstanleytech Jan 2012 #146

Another right-wing fucker who wants to get off cheap. gtar100 Jan 2012 #153