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gollygee

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21. IMO it is respectful to take your hat off for the national anthem

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:11 PM

Sep 2012

However going after other people and telling them to take off their caps is engaging in some kind of competitive nationalism game, which IMO is very unpatriotic. Patriotism isn't a sport, and it isn't something you use to shame or insult others. To use it that way is horrible.

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Lady at a game yesterday ordered me to take my hat off for the national anthem [View all] usregimechange Sep 2012 OP

Women aren't required to remove it at the national anthem, but many do anyway. Brickbat Sep 2012 #1

There is a gender difference too? Making even less sense usregimechange Sep 2012 #2

The tradition of men uncovering their heads as a show of respect goes back for centuries. gkhouston Sep 2012 #64

Same with jury duty- the judge asked only the men to remove their hats arcane1 Sep 2012 #5

I think with women, it's fashion. Women's hats were much more ornate and difficult to take off and Brickbat Sep 2012 #7

I was in the Vatican when a priest asked me to take off my hat. lob1 Sep 2012 #26

In Catholic churches, it's a sign of respect for women to cover their heads. Not for men. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #61

It's a general sign of respect TlalocW Sep 2012 #3

Respect Sophiegirl Sep 2012 #11

Eh TlalocW Sep 2012 #12

You can disagree with me Sophiegirl Sep 2012 #13

Bam! Right there. Iggo Sep 2012 #59

Why NOT go with the the Pledge as the author wanted it to be... happyslug Sep 2012 #60

Because TlalocW Sep 2012 #67

Parents don't teach their children about modesty or closeupready Sep 2012 #40

I take my hat off at games for the anthem. NCTraveler Sep 2012 #4

Haha! Like. Demit Sep 2012 #9

I was in the marching band in high school and college. Staph Sep 2012 #10

I consider you.. Sophiegirl Sep 2012 #14

it probably started in the Military harpslay Sep 2012 #6

No. In the military, you leave your cover on and MineralMan Sep 2012 #15

Actually, it does. FBaggins Sep 2012 #27

if you are carrying a weapon indoors (security police) your cover stays on. sammytko Sep 2012 #49

That only started with Gunpowder.. happyslug Sep 2012 #62

Except service members do not remove their hats pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #16

How on earth do they enforce that for retirees and veterans if they are in their civies? GObamaGO Sep 2012 #20

When you're in civvies, you do the hand over heart thing like the rest of the crowd. MADem Sep 2012 #30

You are authorized to salute now pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #39

That's correct. MineralMan Sep 2012 #46

Good--I end up doing it anyway, and always say "Oh shit, they probably think I'm a doddering old MADem Sep 2012 #52

It's not mandatory pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #35

The Marines always gotta be difficult!!!!!! nt MADem Sep 2012 #54

In most branches of the military you don't salute "uncovered," and you're supposed to salute the MADem Sep 2012 #29

"Patriotism is the most foolish of passions, and the passion of fools." Schopenhauer Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2012 #8

It's somewhat regional. ieoeja Sep 2012 #17

Actually, I mildly object to the playing of the National Anthem MineralMan Sep 2012 #44

me too bluemarkers Sep 2012 #57

This is one of those things I like about Chicago. surrealAmerican Sep 2012 #53

Or my man-parts they watched... pornographically steaming... cherokeeprogressive Sep 2012 #18

As long as you keep your codpiece in place Poiuyt Sep 2012 #63

I would have told her to mind her own damn business quinnox Sep 2012 #19

IMO it is respectful to take your hat off for the national anthem gollygee Sep 2012 #21

Least of my worries madokie Sep 2012 #22

I don't understand why they have the patriotism crap at sporting events. Alduin Sep 2012 #23

Jehovah Witnesses have the right idea about this one Kolesar Sep 2012 #28

Just do what I do.... LeftofObama Sep 2012 #24

If I force you to take if off, it doesn't show respect rock Sep 2012 #25

"ordered?" I would have put my cap back on just for spite... Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #31

No kidding, Mrs. Busybody should have been minding he own business Warpy Sep 2012 #33

Leaving your hat on doesn't make you un-patriotic any more than taking it off does . . . patrice Sep 2012 #32

Lots of good posts I'll just add I don't think there is anything jp11 Sep 2012 #34

+1google for self:other-awareness = meaning patrice Sep 2012 #51

I saw a George Carlin skit a few months ago on this very topic, the wearing and not wearing sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #36

Terrific! Thanks! PCIntern Sep 2012 #43

Hysterical! Thanks for that! smirkymonkey Sep 2012 #66

That was no lady slackmaster Sep 2012 #37

When did the custom of putting your hand over your heart start with the anthem? OKNancy Sep 2012 #38

I don't remember seeing it before 9/11. Mariana Sep 2012 #58

good way to end up in a fight dembotoz Sep 2012 #41

Men always took their hats off for the anthem as far back as I can remember... cynatnite Sep 2012 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #45

Certain memorial buildings Ilsa Sep 2012 #47

My daughter's college hockey game when Bush invaded Iraq HockeyMom Sep 2012 #48

Mouthing off & bullying is a worst offense than leaving your hat on! nt Raine Sep 2012 #50

I stopped saying the pledge circa 1960 Shrike47 Sep 2012 #55

I use that time to go to the restroom NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #56

Men DOFF hats out of deference to a superior. Women WEAR hats because of the sexual connotation of WinkyDink Sep 2012 #65

I have difficulty concentrating long enough to make it through the song. I have visions Contrary1 Sep 2012 #68