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matt819

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74. It's all about money

Fri Mar 20, 2020, 02:29 PM

Mar 2020

In this case, Fauci's.

It costs to take the moral high ground. If he's not eligible to retire, then by doing so he loses his pension. If he's eligible to retire and is trying to maximize his pension, then retiring now costs him.

That said, I've read that Fauci is a pro - intelligent, thoughtful, honest. Well, judging from your post, it seems that he has sold his soul to Trump.

Everything Trump Touches Dies.

He should resign/retire/whatever and tell the truth. Otherwise, his actions today will be the opening paragraph of his obituary.

But we need someone - anyone - to tell the truth, and if it isn't Fauci, and it's definitely not the sycophantic Surgeon General, who will?

Folks, we're flying blind, in the clouds, and there's a mountain out there somewhere.

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***FAUCI JUST LOST ALL CREDIBILITY !!!*** [View all] uponit7771 Mar 2020 OP

I would expect that from Ivanka, not Fauci. no_hypocrisy Mar 2020 #1

Fauci is being threatened heavily because he's earned his cred. BComplex Mar 2020 #2

+1, Fauci is going to have to explain this one. Which is correct? The WHO or Fuaci !! That was not a uponit7771 Mar 2020 #4

Fauxi is a Republican Champp Mar 2020 #23

That explains it, a republican functionary. Fauci is going to have to answer for this shit... uponit7771 Mar 2020 #29

In what way will Fauci have to rusty fender Mar 2020 #136

where did you find information that shows Anthony Fauci is a Republican? link please TIA Celerity Mar 2020 #81

I would say he is apolitical.. Never in public practice and jobs mainly in research at public LiberalArkie Mar 2020 #93

That's gone rockfordfile Mar 2020 #115

There was something going on between Trump PatSeg Mar 2020 #63

The mob boss verbally roughed up his capo. LastDemocratInSC Mar 2020 #112

That's how it looked to me PatSeg Mar 2020 #132

BS The guy is just a pos. Stop making excuses rockfordfile Mar 2020 #114

Heckuva job, Fauci. Initech Mar 2020 #3

#Fauxi now trending Champp Mar 2020 #24

+1, his testing statement leaned more toward Trump doctrine that WHO doctrine & that's dangerous uponit7771 Mar 2020 #52

Perfect. jaxexpat Mar 2020 #36

Fauci is likewise CHOOSING to ignore emerging evidence of cruise-ship related hlthe2b Mar 2020 #5

That isn't what he said. He said regardless of testing we can still do what Newsom and Cumo did still_one Mar 2020 #6

He said "I don't see the connection between testing and doing ... uponit7771 Mar 2020 #11

I disagree. He effectively said they DON'T have the capability to do complete testing. Whether still_one Mar 2020 #26

He was saying stop inquiring about the tests... lame54 Mar 2020 #62

I hear you, but with what we have in the WH I don't expect much. From what I understand, he was still_one Mar 2020 #67

He's operating within the confines that he have been put around him BumRushDaShow Mar 2020 #7

You want to get your message out? Turbineguy Mar 2020 #16

Unfortunately that is what has happened BumRushDaShow Mar 2020 #18

But what Fauci said goes against the WHO and what we've seen work. They tested as much as uponit7771 Mar 2020 #20

The problem is that if you make things too complicated BumRushDaShow Mar 2020 #46

True, right now the US isn't testing the symptomatic at 90%. There's restricited testing among uponit7771 Mar 2020 #54

Agree although even the medical community has to learn to differentiate BumRushDaShow Mar 2020 #87

YES !!! These guys sound like they're high !!! Hospitals can't go down to CVS and by swabs ... uponit7771 Mar 2020 #90

Some of what Fauci tried to frame was also against the CDC. 58Sunliner Mar 2020 #104

Trump was smiling like he had Fauci under his thumb. Turbineguy Mar 2020 #21

Exactly still_one Mar 2020 #28

I agree Chainfire Mar 2020 #33

Nope. He's a Republican. Republicans can't be trusted. Period. n/t Coventina Mar 2020 #49

where did you find information that shows Anthony Fauci is a Republican? link please TIA Celerity Mar 2020 #83

He has served under 8 Presidents BumRushDaShow Mar 2020 #97

Due to limited resources (both for testing and treatment)..... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2020 #126

I think they are doing that by deploying FEMA units BumRushDaShow Mar 2020 #127

Thank you, that's a relief to know and hope it becomes nation-wide. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2020 #129

Florida might get bad BumRushDaShow Mar 2020 #130

What two does he not connect? nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #8

Updated OP, instead of affirming WHO directive of "TEST TEST TEST" he holds up Red Don's plan uponit7771 Mar 2020 #22

Fauci has been a disappointment on Covid-19. nt SunSeeker Mar 2020 #9

That's an understatement. BadgerMom Mar 2020 #86

oh yeah. barbtries Mar 2020 #110

I agree rockfordfile Mar 2020 #118

Yesterday, he was going on and on about how well the early travel restrictions (China) worked bullwinkle428 Mar 2020 #10

I have no idea what your post means brooklynite Mar 2020 #12

Its all over Yahoo news now, you'll see in a second ... he just blew up the internet. I'll uponit7771 Mar 2020 #13

Fauci may turn out to be the Robert Mueller of healthcare. BamaRefugee Mar 2020 #14

+1, someone who's more of a functionary than trying to keep the house from burning down. uponit7771 Mar 2020 #17

Yep. nt SunSeeker Mar 2020 #58

Disappointing. At least I have Gov Newsom here in CA to give me some hope in government deurbano Mar 2020 #78

Fauci lost all credibility last week on MTP. Coventina Mar 2020 #15

Stop watching this political theater and just walk out so to speak? Brainfodder Mar 2020 #19

South Korea sure doesn't agree with him lame54 Mar 2020 #25

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2020 #27

He also trivialized the new airborne finding Cetacea Mar 2020 #30

+1, he did it by intimating it could've been in a high dense area. Who cares?! It can happen and .. uponit7771 Mar 2020 #39

He's one of the brightest and most respected evertonfc Mar 2020 #31

Yes, Doctor Fauci True Blue American Mar 2020 #35

Fauci is a political creature. kag Mar 2020 #38

Unnnnnn, his last statement about testing undermines WHO directive and plain in sight evidence uponit7771 Mar 2020 #41

He's a Republican. You can't trust Republicans. Ever! n/t Coventina Mar 2020 #51

Dr. Fauci is qualified, Trump is the idiot IronLionZion Mar 2020 #70

BS rockfordfile Mar 2020 #120

I agree. I trust him the most of anyone I watch even when I can see... LAS14 Mar 2020 #82

No he's just another weasel at 79. rockfordfile Mar 2020 #119

There's something sinister about their resistance to testing. C_U_L8R Mar 2020 #32

THIS !!! uponit7771 Mar 2020 #43

Er, there are 300-million people in this country. If we got 1-million people tested a month stopbush Mar 2020 #34

You only need to test a fraction. Loki Liesmith Mar 2020 #40

+1, exactly what S Korea did uponit7771 Mar 2020 #45

The OP quotes Fauci as saying we can't test EVERYONE in the country. stopbush Mar 2020 #50

I do because Fauci did not narrow down to the concern that has... uponit7771 Mar 2020 #60

No, we all know the science test symptomatic, contact trace then suspected contact ... uponit7771 Mar 2020 #44

So you run a design testing program on a small sample. Blue_true Mar 2020 #135

You don't have to test everyone. Loki Liesmith Mar 2020 #37

We can't test the symptomatic right now, Fauci knows or should know to constrain the question uponit7771 Mar 2020 #47

Testing everyone is how the town of Vo, Italy, stopped Covid-19 in less than 2 weeks. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #61

Oh wow !!! Updating OP ... this should be its own OP uponit7771 Mar 2020 #76

I took his comment as both are needed -- lockdowns and testing. Maybe just me wanting iluvtennis Mar 2020 #42

+1, I'm trying with the guy but that response to testing blew me away. We already have cases uponit7771 Mar 2020 #72

On the other hand, you can get tested today, get negative results in a few days, Hoyt Mar 2020 #48

+++ still_one Mar 2020 #53

+1, true ... right now we're isolating with sick people cause the asymptomatic nature uponit7771 Mar 2020 #65

And another one bites the dust. catbyte Mar 2020 #55

Fauci is a Trump tool bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #56

What is he supposed to do? Take Trump on in public and lose his access to the media.... LAS14 Mar 2020 #84

Well he's a coward then rockfordfile Mar 2020 #121

I was always suspicious of Fauci. BigDemVoter Mar 2020 #57

Fauci has been replaced with a pod person. Sloumeau Mar 2020 #59

lol uponit7771 Mar 2020 #64

In Iceland, where the goal is to test everyone, fully half of those who tested positive dlk Mar 2020 #66

+1, .... we're number 101 !!! Iceland and S Korea is whoopin our azz on getting or staying healthy uponit7771 Mar 2020 #68

Thank you, GOP! dlk Mar 2020 #71

And you know what? We were 2nd country to get virus Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2020 #99

everything Trump touches dies... he corrupts everything LymphocyteLover Mar 2020 #69

wow BeckyDem Mar 2020 #73

It's all about money matt819 Mar 2020 #74

Maybe he'll clean that remark up later, he should lean towards over testing & away from under ... uponit7771 Mar 2020 #80

Fauci was clearer and more consistent disndat Mar 2020 #75

Fuck him. He's another cowardly Republican who'd rather lick his master's hand Coventina Mar 2020 #77

Thank you! It continues to just amaze me that there are still those here Atticus Mar 2020 #79

This is a really depressing thread. nt LAS14 Mar 2020 #85

Yeah, I smell panic. tavernier Mar 2020 #92

I'd rather have the bad news now so I can do something about it. The bad news is the federal ... uponit7771 Mar 2020 #95

can't trust the CDC anymore. barbtries Mar 2020 #88

I disagree. kentuck Mar 2020 #89

Man ... I know, I said upthread that maybe he'll clean this up but I've heard too many times leaning uponit7771 Mar 2020 #91

I agree with your sensible disagreement. nt LAS14 Mar 2020 #96

100% agree RelativelyJones Mar 2020 #131

So you want Fauci to alienate Trump and his base when he's desperately... LAS14 Mar 2020 #94

He can keep from alienating Trumps base and lean towards good science uponit7771 Mar 2020 #98

Seems to me that's what he's doing. We can't base our policy on testing all Americans. LAS14 Mar 2020 #106

The question was very broad based but Fauci could've taken the question to the practical narrow uponit7771 Mar 2020 #109

I have been saying he has shown himself as a 'tool' for weeks... prove me wrong! JCMach1 Mar 2020 #100

Another item he was fudging was the question of droplet transmission. 58Sunliner Mar 2020 #101

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2020 #102

When I heard him say that I just flipped and started yelling. That sonofabitch. We CAN do ancianita Mar 2020 #103

+1, we give trillions away in tax cuts to rich people !!! We put a man on the moon before I was uponit7771 Mar 2020 #105

Goddam right, uponit7771! Keep their HYPE front and center! ancianita Mar 2020 #108

The moment he agreed to work with Orange Blowfeld, the end? Brainfodder Mar 2020 #107

So, somewhere in all of the mix he became trumps butt buddy. Doreen Mar 2020 #111

Well, here are some facts from local news here in Seattle: Trailrider1951 Mar 2020 #113

Please OP this, I'll lurk it for you ... we need to socialize that the US has a testing issue that's uponit7771 Mar 2020 #116

Will do. Thanks! Trailrider1951 Mar 2020 #122

He has lost me as well Sunsky Mar 2020 #117

FAUCI HIMSELF SAID that the only way to tell if a person who has been ill is no wiggs Mar 2020 #123

+1, I remember this uponit7771 Mar 2020 #128

Oh...and #ETTD is proven once again. nt wiggs Mar 2020 #124

The Stock Market Is Sensitive To Events Like This DallasNE Mar 2020 #125

A good friend of mine has known Dr. Fauci for decades. Neema Mar 2020 #133

I wouldn't put it past Trump uponit7771 Mar 2020 #134

See my reply #139. The whole article is worth reading. nt LAS14 Mar 2020 #140

This is the Fauci I recognize. Does this begin to restore your confidence? LAS14 Mar 2020 #137

Not when it comes to testing ... I can see him bucking Red Don on other things but Testing uponit7771 Mar 2020 #138

How about this? Does this shed a different light on Fauci? LAS14 Mar 2020 #139