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C_U_L8R

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27. HOW ?

Sun Mar 22, 2020, 12:41 PM

Mar 2020

Without comprehensive testing, they have no actual idea who's healthy and who's not.

Guesswork and wishful thinking is not a strategy for staying alive.

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This Dr Osterholm on CNN really doesn't get it. He suggests let healthy people do their regular [View all] still_one Mar 2020 OP

Add to that, even healthy people might be living with someone not so healthy in their household. LisaL Mar 2020 #1

+1, I don't see how people aren't getting that isolating with sick people makes things worse uponit7771 Mar 2020 #26

That's like telling people not to pee in the deep end of the pool. Croney Mar 2020 #2

I really hope you misunderstood what he said, but if true, that's appalling. OnDoutside Mar 2020 #3

I don't think I did. It was a Wolf Blitzer interview, and I will look for the video when it comes still_one Mar 2020 #17

Wow, that sounds like the herd immunity argument. Even a 1.5% death rate OnDoutside Mar 2020 #23

Exactly. Acceptable losses. I am getting criticised by some in this OP for questioning still_one Mar 2020 #24

I'm afraid he is sorta right zipplewrath Mar 2020 #32

They are trying to buy time zipple to prevent hospitals from being overrun, and to hopefully to give still_one Mar 2020 #35

For how long zipplewrath Mar 2020 #37

No one knows, but what happened in 1918 should not be ignored still_one Mar 2020 #39

For how long zipplewrath Mar 2020 #43

Until the medical resources meet the potential demand still_one Mar 2020 #44

4 weeks zipplewrath Mar 2020 #46

ok, if at least we have the resources to give people a fighting chance still_one Mar 2020 #47

It will take 2-3 months at least Meowmee Mar 2020 #52

Whatever it takes we must bite the bullet, or in my view it will be far worse still_one Mar 2020 #53

Agree nt Meowmee Mar 2020 #54

Yes it sounds like two opposite opinions alright. That said, I fear OnDoutside Mar 2020 #38

As I said it is all about buying time to get those needed medical resources, and to hopefully still_one Mar 2020 #40

I would agree if there was a National coordinated response, but there isn't. My fear (and maybe what OnDoutside Mar 2020 #49

Utter bs, covid has put many young, healthy Phoenix61 Mar 2020 #4

Apparently healthy people could have the virus and be spreading it. nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #5

Culling of the herd MaryMagdaline Mar 2020 #6

Never mind the fact that most cases are asymptomatic Docreed2003 Mar 2020 #7

He gets it. What's your background? evertonfc Mar 2020 #8

Most experts are saying the exact opposite Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #14

You have to be insulting? We have been hearing from "experts" what we need to do", and still_one Mar 2020 #18

What about those who still feel healthy enough to work but are shedding virus? marble falls Mar 2020 #9

There's no 'healthy people' without tests htuttle Mar 2020 #10

I think he gets it. Here's an interview he did just a few days ago. Hoyt Mar 2020 #11

Unfortunately, that is a paywall behind it. Problem is that he is contradicting Dr. Fauci and still_one Mar 2020 #19

Osterholm totally gets it MrsMatt Mar 2020 #12

Agreed. He quite gets it.... PCIntern Mar 2020 #15

Then what is your solution when the hospitals get over-run? Because he sure didn't address that in still_one Mar 2020 #21

In the interveiw he didn't address how to deal with the potential for hospital overruns? To me in still_one Mar 2020 #22

He was brutal on Trump. earthside Mar 2020 #13

Pretty sure I'm going to trust an epidemiologist rather than... a la izquierda Mar 2020 #16

He contradicts Dr. Fauci and others in the field? What Fauci and others are hoping for is that they still_one Mar 2020 #20

Isolating with sick people makes things worse uponit7771 Mar 2020 #25

That is why, as you have been reenforcing through various posts here, that everyone needs to be still_one Mar 2020 #28

HOW ? C_U_L8R Mar 2020 #27

Absolutely, but until the testing kits, ventalators, masks, etc. are in adequate supply, along with still_one Mar 2020 #29

Self isolate seems the smartest thing, short of a vaccine (that doesn't exist yet) C_U_L8R Mar 2020 #31

we are on the same page. I think most at DU are still_one Mar 2020 #33

Elbow bumps :-) C_U_L8R Mar 2020 #34

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This message was self-deleted by its author still_one Mar 2020 #30

The problem of course is knowing who's healthy. Osterholm told CNN a week ago that asymptomatic highplainsdem Mar 2020 #41

and the testing resources still aren't there, nor are the other medical supplies. That is why there still_one Mar 2020 #42

Exactly. It's all about buying time. There will inevitably be another spike in cases when highplainsdem Mar 2020 #45

There may not be good answers Midnightwalk Mar 2020 #48

NEW:Coronavirus pandemic: What's 'normal' now? What's next? An interview with Michael Osterholm. OnDoutside Mar 2020 #50

We can't shut down half the economy for the rest of the year madville Mar 2020 #51