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In reply to the discussion: Dan Rather is on Maddow [View all]

Stevepol

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4. But Bush got some help.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:03 PM
Sep 2012

He got help from the the SC in 2000 and from the Ohio voting machines in 2004.

I don't think he actually would have won either election fair and square.

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