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thucythucy

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30. Are these numbers also included?
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:37 AM
Mar 2020

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213200196

That's 115 new cases in Tennessee in one nursing home alone. How many other nursing homes are similarly at risk? And notice that not only are residents infected, but also staff, who go home to their families, and who have presumably been going out into the community and no doubt infecting others. Who in turn infect others. None of which will become apparent for another week or so.

So Tennessee is then another "wild card" that might disrupt your more optimistic scenario.

As for Louisiana, we've just started to see cases that were infected a week or more ago. And many of the folks who attended Mardi Gras have now scattered back to their home states--raising the potential for an even greater spread.

As the saying goes--hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

According to the experts our "best" case scenario is "only" one to two hundred thousand deaths. And the worst case scenarios are absolutely horrific.

One other factor to consider. Even if--and it's a big "if"--even if North America and western Europe are able to bring down the rate of increase, much of Latin America, the Caribbean, Africa and Southern and South West Asia are just beginning to experience their own outbreaks. Imagine the impact of 200 million cases in Vietnam, Cambodia, Burma, India, Sri Lanka, Indonesia. Imagine 50 million cases in Brazil (where the federal government seems every bit as inept and anti-science as our own).

The public health and economic devastation this will cause will dwarf anything we've seen to date. Who is going to do the planting in those regions, who's going to bring in the harvest? Food shortages will in turn lead to more vulnerable populations, which will exacerbate the impact of the pandemic. We saw this dynamic during the flu pandemic of 1919, where populations weakened by poor nutrition during the war were super vulnerable to the disease.

We are in for a very harsh time. Better to face up for it and prepare--which can only happen when the right wing know nothings--in the US, Britain, Brazil and elsewhere--are made to make way for people with some measure of competence and empathy.

I strongly suspect that it's way too early to claim anything close to success in slowing the spread, here or anywhere else.

Though I also very passionately hope I'm wrong.

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Considering how hard it is to get tested, I wouldn't count my chickens just yet. LisaL Mar 2020 #1
You did read my last sentence, yes? n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #2
I am just pointing out the obvious. LisaL Mar 2020 #3
According to today's curve, Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #7
Shouldn't caveats go first? n/t JustFiveMoreMinutes Mar 2020 #33
Nope. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #37
I'm waiting for Florida's numbers to spike in a week or less Ilsa Mar 2020 #4
That is optimistic. 33taw Mar 2020 #5
Nothing I said suggested we were near the peak. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #11
Death rate is probably the more important stat to track right now... JCMach1 Mar 2020 #6
The death rate will trail the new case rate by approximately 2 weeks. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #14
Operative word is tested Lithos Mar 2020 #8
Yep. LisaL Mar 2020 #10
See China's curve on 2/12 & 2/13 Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #15
Like I pointed out last night, China took brutally drastic action, Blue_true Mar 2020 #19
It's also likely they aren't exactly honest about how many people actually died. LisaL Mar 2020 #20
Yes, I noticed that, compared to Italy. nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #24
Just reporting observations, Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #21
You points are very sound if big cities where Governors or Mayors Blue_true Mar 2020 #26
Have no issue with looking for hope in all this. Hoyt Mar 2020 #9
And me as well. eom sprinkleeninow Mar 2020 #29
Here's an interesting video that explains it. MyMission Mar 2020 #12
I've seen it before - it is very good! Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #16
I don't think that people are challenging your statement about the virus Blue_true Mar 2020 #23
Some are. It is those people I hope will watch the video. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #25
I think you are being a little too sensitive about people's critiques. Blue_true Mar 2020 #27
It's not bothering me - Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #28
Very good--thank you n/t Lulu KC Mar 2020 #35
I just now read here on DU that Missouri thucythucy Mar 2020 #13
The growth in Missouri s included in the formula (since their numbers are in the mix). Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author thucythucy Mar 2020 #18
Are these numbers also included? thucythucy Mar 2020 #30
You may, or may not, remember that I was one of the few on DU Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #41
good Demovictory9 Mar 2020 #22
CDC has slightly different data ... progree Mar 2020 #31
It doesn't really matter which source, as long as you pick one Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #36
"In a month, my formula has it dropping to about" progree Mar 2020 #40
It's a simple curve fitting polynomial. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #42
Thanks for the info. It's been a couple decades since the last time I did curve-fitting. progree Mar 2020 #43
Oregons cases have been improving also which is where cases were first reported in the US yaesu Mar 2020 #32
What will work once a thing like this escapes into Warpy Mar 2020 #34
Thank you, let's hope it continues that trend relayerbob Mar 2020 #38
Assuming the math holds and there are no unexpected fuck ups due to Trump or his supporters cstanleytech Mar 2020 #39
Fauci and other medical experts MyMission Mar 2020 #44
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