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PoindexterOglethorpe

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42. Well, I did spend part of my childhood, from age 7 to 14 out in the country.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 03:19 AM
Mar 2020

It was dairy country in upstate New York.

I am also one of 6 kids, and came of age when we didn't yet have vaccines for measles, mumps, chicken pox, or rubella (known back then as German Measles). I was born in 1948.

For what it's worth, I was only a few months old when my older sister got chicken pox. My mom brought me to a doctor who gave me a shot of gamma globulin, something relatively common back then. According to my mom, while my older sister got a very bad case of chicken pox (and had scars on her forehead the rest of her life) I had other symptoms, but never got the actual poxes. However, being exposed to it over the years makes it clear that I am immune.

Some years later, before the vaccine was available, I was anxious that my sons get chicken pox. My older son had already been through three rounds of it in elementary schools in two different states. I was planning a spring break trip to my sister in another state, who called me up and said, "You may want to postpone this trip because one, there's a winter storm between us you'll have to drive through, and two, my oldest has just broken out in chicken pox."

I said, "I'm on my way." The winter storm was a mild hitch in the travel. Two weeks after we got home both of my sons broke out in chicken pox. Yes!

Please do not interpret that as anti-vaxx. This was before the chicken pox vaccine.

But back to your basic question. What a lot of people don't understand is how the human immune system works. We are designed to be confronted with lots of diseases in our early years. If we survive to age ten or so, we are highly likely to live through the next forty or fifty years (barring tragic accident), reproduce, perhaps become an elder of our tribe, and then die.

I do know that research has been done that indicates kids who grow up with dogs, and secondarily cats, have more robust immune systems than those who don't have those animals in their childhoods.

Polio was essentially a disease of affluence. Kids who were sheltered from disease were more likely to get certain diseases, such as polio.

One of the problems with this whole Corona Virus thing is that there are a fuck of a lot of people around who would not have been around 50 or 70 years ago. They are highly susceptible to this. A number of them will get this virus, and some of them will die. That is genuinely sad, but not really unexpected. I recall reading decades ago concerns about the fact that even then (and this is probably at least 50 years ago) that people were living and reproducing who would not have lived, let alone reproduced in earlier eras.

Another thought. I think almost all of us would agree that the planet is already overpopulated. Okay, so how do you propose the excess population be culled?

On the up side, there are soon going to be lots of jobs for grave diggers.

Where are these mythical masks available? Been wearing my last one for a week BamaRefugee Mar 2020 #1
They're easy enough to make, there's insructions all over the internet. marble falls Mar 2020 #6
you can make them or buy the handmade ones online Marrah_Goodman Mar 2020 #82
Yes greenjar_01 Mar 2020 #2
it only works if everyone wears it AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #3
Whatever greenjar_01 Mar 2020 #4
Yes. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2020 #5
should all essential businesses that remain open provide masks AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #7
Yes. LisaL Mar 2020 #47
yes Marrah_Goodman Mar 2020 #84
Yes, a mask will protect you Meowmee Mar 2020 #8
Would a tshirt strip and coffee filters work to some degree? Captain Zero Mar 2020 #39
Yes Meowmee Mar 2020 #41
re: "If it protects others if you sneeze etc it protects you as well" thesquanderer Mar 2020 #80
Not true Meowmee Mar 2020 #85
it will restrict the travel distance of the virus AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #86
Yes. In those respects, both kinds of masks significantly help prevent transmission. thesquanderer Mar 2020 #94
Wearing one I would find easy getting one Raine Mar 2020 #9
Make one... BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #16
I'm going to give it a try Raine Mar 2020 #17
Get creative or just have fun with it. BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #19
I started sewing masks by hand today. MerryBlooms Mar 2020 #10
I don't have a sewing machine, and don't really know how to sew besides BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #13
Me too that's the kind of sewing I do, basic by hand Raine Mar 2020 #18
My son Mossfern Mar 2020 #24
That's a pretty good idea. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #26
Hey Moss, yer son's a dadgum genius!!! Leghorn21 Mar 2020 #29
Thanks Mossfern Mar 2020 #30
Aaaaahhhhhh! 2naSalit Mar 2020 #32
That is clever & easy. Appreciate your smart son! TY appalachiablue Mar 2020 #72
All you need to use is a running stitch csziggy Mar 2020 #58
Do you have a pattern? EllieBC Mar 2020 #21
I've been looking at youtube how-to's for about a week now. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #23
My sister said she found one that was made from paper towel, staples, rubberbands. MerryBlooms Mar 2020 #65
I saw one like that too--wonder if it would be better BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #66
The tighter the weave the better... MerryBlooms Mar 2020 #71
Yeah at the very least, gives us something to do sitting at home.. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #73
Here are two I bookmarked, there are lots on Youtube- MerryBlooms Mar 2020 #64
WHO says yes if you're sick or taking care of someone who is sick. mwooldri Mar 2020 #11
everyone must assume they are carriers AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #31
Exactly. LisaL Mar 2020 #48
We are. Greybnk48 Mar 2020 #12
YES...here's why... BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #14
I haven't, but they have to help, even if only marginally effective. Hoyt Mar 2020 #15
The ones I'm making are designer . . . Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #37
Cool. How long will it be before America's wealthy will appear with Louis Vuitton surgical masks? Hoyt Mar 2020 #50
I was looking for something in garage today marlakay Mar 2020 #20
I found a few also Steelrolled Mar 2020 #56
Safety Glasses are also good if you have them. Normal glasses can also offer a bit of protection JCMach1 Mar 2020 #22
I saw someone with swimming goggles on today! 2naSalit Mar 2020 #33
Those would be good. LisaL Mar 2020 #46
We have some safety glasses, I'm planning to use them BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #70
I have my mowing glasses which form a shield on all sides JCMach1 Mar 2020 #77
Thanks for the suggestion! musette_sf Mar 2020 #87
Yes budkin Mar 2020 #25
I wore mine to the Post Office today... ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2020 #27
Yes. bamagal62 Mar 2020 #28
I am not convinced that's necessary. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2020 #34
Better to wear it and not need it than to need it and not wear it hangaleft Mar 2020 #38
+1, I've been saying for years my parents generation had a gift of toughness. Every generation has . uponit7771 Mar 2020 #74
did you grow up on a farm far from mcdonald's Captain Zero Mar 2020 #40
Well, I did spend part of my childhood, from age 7 to 14 out in the country. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2020 #42
When I posted a thread here about parents deliberately exposing their rzemanfl Mar 2020 #55
I'm 71 and grew up in Manhattan HockeyMom Mar 2020 #57
Everyone needs to be responsible for their own safety. Totally Tunsie Mar 2020 #35
welcome to pandemic 101 AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #36
So as someone with zero underlying conditions, who is easily PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2020 #43
For me, as a healthy (so far as I know, don't go to doctor very often) 50 year old BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #69
Yes, it's a no brainer Cicada Mar 2020 #44
Yes. LisaL Mar 2020 #45
We should wear masks to protect others, not necessarily ourselves. kentuck Mar 2020 #49
I see it the other way. If you protect your self you are protecting others mitch96 Mar 2020 #60
Or cut up a HEPA vacuum bag into filters. Clean bag, obviously. LisaL Mar 2020 #68
I think so Generic Other Mar 2020 #51
I found a box of painter's masks Freddie Mar 2020 #52
'Mask countries' vs the 'no mask' countries - graph PunkinPi Mar 2020 #53
The mask countries also do massive testing & track you w/ cell phone apps. CottonBear Mar 2020 #54
Agree...just found the graphic interesting in light of the OP's question. nt PunkinPi Mar 2020 #59
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2020 #76
I went absolutist on masks after reading accounts and data JCMach1 Mar 2020 #78
It's probably ideal MissMillie Mar 2020 #61
You can make a cotton mask or you can purchase on-line. LisaL Mar 2020 #67
Yes we all should duforsure Mar 2020 #62
Without question. The more people who wear them, the more people WILL feel obliged to Alex4Martinez Mar 2020 #63
I have a rubber trump mask. Wonder how that would work. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #75
I have a rubber Beavis mask musette_sf Mar 2020 #88
heh heh...heh heh...n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #89
I NEED TP musette_sf Mar 2020 #91
Beavis knew this day was coming. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #92
A coronavirus particle is 70-90 nm. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2020 #79
yes, we should Marrah_Goodman Mar 2020 #81
Yes, I belive so shanti Mar 2020 #83
I wear mine outside the home DenverJared Mar 2020 #90
Yes! Buckeye_Democrat Mar 2020 #93
that's terryfing AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #96
Yep, it's a win win. LisaL Mar 2020 #97
We should wear masks if we have them to help protect elderly and immunocompromised people. roamer65 Mar 2020 #95
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