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Chainfire

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59. It remains to be seen if Trump

Sat Apr 4, 2020, 07:07 PM

Apr 2020

will be held responsible. He has great the great power of the bully pulpit. This crisis will be presented as a natural disaster that Trump worked so smartly and tirelessly to mitigate. God's will and all of that.... Of course, we will always hold him responsible, but we are not the only ones who will be writing the story.

All of this is a fun game of what ifs but November will be here quicker than we think. If we lay back and assume Trump will be defeated on his record, we may be opening a big box of heartache for Christmas. Each of us has to devote their time, energy and our money to defeat Trump. Overconfidence is our enemy. Remember where being too sure got us with Hillary? I haven't gotten over my wife waking me on election night to tell me Hillary had conceded; it still hurts.

This may be our last chance.

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A Poll That Will Send Shock Waves Thru the White House [View all] RandySF Apr 2020 OP

Many who are going to die haven't yet, and the more who die, the more likely any tblue37 Apr 2020 #1

I guess your can fool all the people sometimes, some all time, but not all, all the time. olegramps Apr 2020 #21

Hmmmm....... seems like I've heard that somewhere before. groundloop Apr 2020 #36

Yes, if borne out by other polls, our chance of national survival will increase. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #40

All along, when we were scratching our heads wondering what would it take? Chemisse Apr 2020 #76

and you can't fool the grim reaper DBoon Apr 2020 #50

That should also be true for victims of our gun pandemic. CaptYossarian Apr 2020 #35

in October, the Dems need to have the "It's a Hoax", 'I'm not responsible" Trump videos running Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #2

I think Sun Tzu called this phenomenon 'losing the mandate of heaven' PatrickforO Apr 2020 #27

Once people turn on you, it's impossible to regain their support. sop Apr 2020 #3

That's human nature and that doesn't change. Even for magats. lindysalsagal Apr 2020 #26

Unfortunately it took people dying to get these people to change their minds about the ... SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #4

We'll see customerserviceguy Apr 2020 #5

More Americans are at wanting trump prosecuted rockfordfile Apr 2020 #12

That's why they're now saying it might take 5 months to get their checks. In September, BComplex Apr 2020 #34

With physical checks, that may be true customerserviceguy Apr 2020 #45

Not talking about stimulus money. Talking about the fubar unemployment BComplex Apr 2020 #48

Sorry customerserviceguy Apr 2020 #49

True that. And we just found out Florida made it fubar on purpose to keep people BComplex Apr 2020 #54

Florida customerserviceguy Apr 2020 #55

Lots and lots of republicans down there. BComplex Apr 2020 #56

Problem with the stimulus money is that Aquaria Apr 2020 #57

My fear is that anyone dumb enough to vote for Chump the first time Totally Tunsie Apr 2020 #6

It Only Takes 60,000... ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #7

That sounds nice, but you have to remember we'll be dealing with a slightly different populace, Totally Tunsie Apr 2020 #8

Not Arguing That ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #14

That's 2016 election math. Girard442 Apr 2020 #10

And a large part of it depends on how many voters the repubs can suppress. groundloop Apr 2020 #39

This is key. Believe no polls, especially the optimistic ones. klook Apr 2020 #69

Not really moose65 Apr 2020 #51

Not to pick nits here, nor to be confrontational... BUT not_the_one Apr 2020 #78

Just wait till we get to 10,000 dead a week. We're already at 7000 a week now. uponit7771 Apr 2020 #9

Here's the link to today's Navigator tracking poll muriel_volestrangler Apr 2020 #11

Thank you GusBob Apr 2020 #20

Guess they weren't impressed with Mr. Pillow. ooky Apr 2020 #13

Government-sponsored profiteering. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #41

The National stockpile was bought with tax payer dollars and then given away free to Hotler Apr 2020 #74

Don't go counting chickens Chainfire Apr 2020 #15

If this begins to subside bluescribbler Apr 2020 #22

Wrong. Nearly all all being impacted. Standing in line to go to Target. Empty shelves. Dream Girl Apr 2020 #23

You miss my point Chainfire Apr 2020 #46

We will see. A depression is coming. Massive ememployment. Those daily victory laps Dream Girl Apr 2020 #53

It remains to be seen if Trump Chainfire Apr 2020 #59

Saw this impressive ad yesterday. MyMission Apr 2020 #63

Nah, the economy won't come back for years and the deaths will still be happening... brush Apr 2020 #31

It was already proven that the russians hacked the florida voting machines in 2016. BComplex Apr 2020 #37

Go with trump and the Russians pulling off a squeaker again. Not me. There are... brush Apr 2020 #42

From your keyboard to God's ears. BComplex Apr 2020 #43

Polls don't mean shit. edbermac Apr 2020 #16

Personally never believed he had a bump. Just let this simmer. gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #17

We all need to start hammering the GOP as well, and connecting them to tRUMP. japple Apr 2020 #18

Exactly, japple. We need to tie ALL republican elected officials to trump before the election. BComplex Apr 2020 #38

Hammer on Moscow Mitch for playing games with the relief bills, lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #44

Of course Chainfire Apr 2020 #47

I have news for those who found the last line encouraging. DFW Apr 2020 #19

It's not a question of getting them to change their vote grantcart Apr 2020 #24

Maybe,but it's early days. Red states and rural folks have yet to feel anything close full impact. Dream Girl Apr 2020 #25

That is true, however DFW Apr 2020 #67

I agree. Duppers Apr 2020 #61

He's still at 100% racist approval Cartoonist Apr 2020 #28

I am sure Rush Limbaugh will be telling his audience to vote for Trump. n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #77

Expect a little bump when Donald rides his bulldozer to "Get COVID-19 done!" Anon-C Apr 2020 #29

Those numbers will continue to escalate as the death toll mounts Mr. Ected Apr 2020 #30

You know, it just irks me no end how people don't see right through PatrickforO Apr 2020 #32

What's funny is Mr.Bill Apr 2020 #33

Good...You know the ebola thing could have killed a whole lot more than it did, people took Eliot Rosewater Apr 2020 #52

He joked about killing someone on 5th Avenue and not losing support. But... Beartracks Apr 2020 #58

We always seem to like these numbers Jakes Progress Apr 2020 #60

who are the morons that approve of him? mdbl Apr 2020 #62

A month ago, Rasmussen Reports had his approval at 52 to 47 for +5% OnlinePoker Apr 2020 #64

No one could have seen this pandemic coming.. Permanut Apr 2020 #65

Freaking Lying Murderer should be in Cha Apr 2020 #66

The states that took aggressive action will weather the storm DIVINEprividence Apr 2020 #68

Just who are the people that still support Trump, think he was prepared, and is going good job? Botany Apr 2020 #70

The fact that his disapproval rate is not 100% means that we're doomed Orrex Apr 2020 #71

Thank you for the encouraging data. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2020 #72

Thank God or whatever . . . skip fox Apr 2020 #73

"didn't take the virus seriously enough" here's what a couple of tRUMP cultists said to me: SayItLoud Apr 2020 #75

The polling shouold be 95% saying that he was unprepared AdamGG Apr 2020 #79

And we've barely scratched the full death toll yet. paleotn Apr 2020 #80