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davekriss

(5,316 posts)
36. Sad story
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 03:43 PM
Apr 2020

My dad used to occasionally tell my brother and I that he did not want to live with a bunch of tubes shoved down his throat, dependent on machines to live.

Then he got cancer and eventually found himself in just that situation. Most of the time he was in an induced coma, but when we’d visit they woke him up. He was restrained because, otherwise, he’d tear out the tubes.

My brother and I flew in from out of state. He welcomed our visits, clearly. But when we’d leave, he made expressions to me that I interpreted as, ‘get these f*ing pipes out of me’. I’d shout at him (he was nearly totally deaf), ‘one more day, dad, just one more day. They want to test your ability to breath on your own’. This went on for weeks.

The doctors, always the optimists, said they can try this or that (which they did, including highly invasive surgery). One day a nurse pulled my aside and told me to end it, that we (all of us) were only making him suffer. I objected, saying Dr X wanted to try procedure Y. She said the doctors are always optimistic, they always want to save lives. But, she said, she’d seen this play out so many times and she was certain my dad would not improve. A few days later he passed due to heart failure.

It hit me weeks later that my father, a lifelong atheist and a reality-based, tough-as-nails NYC kid, was asking me to end it. We talked about this situation over the years and he wanted to end it even if it meant death.

That was 7 years ago and I still live with that guilt. It was our selfishness, our desire not to lose our dad that blinded us to his wishes and thus prolonged his suffering.

(Karma: I now have the same incurable cancer.)

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This isn't terribly different from what Cuomo said last week democrattotheend Apr 2020 #1
Or maybe we could just build and distribute more ventilators. dawg day Apr 2020 #7
Sadly, yes Tweedy Apr 2020 #28
It's one way of acknowledging reality. Igel Apr 2020 #32
As someone in the disability community comments like this scare the shit out of me. thucythucy Apr 2020 #42
"Rates of hospitalization going down"? Yeah, right. n/t blitzen Apr 2020 #2
Where? I wonder Tweedy Apr 2020 #29
Yet they claim the 'pro-life' banner. mzmolly Apr 2020 #3
Maybe it's just me but I liked Dr. Kervorkian better. gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #4
Fox was kind of forced to get some doctor ANY doctor on air. underpants Apr 2020 #5
The lengths they will go to for the sake of defending Trump for his criminal lack of action dawg day Apr 2020 #6
I don't want to defend anything from Fox news blogslut Apr 2020 #8
Yes, I think you're right, but it seems babylonsister Apr 2020 #10
I understand blogslut Apr 2020 #18
The reports I have seen said 60-90 percent don't recover madville Apr 2020 #11
The majority who require ventilators don't survive madville Apr 2020 #9
It's also a harrowing way to linger and then die janterry Apr 2020 #14
Sad story davekriss Apr 2020 #36
I'm so sorry janterry Apr 2020 #40
I guess they should just go ahead and die ... rustysgurl Apr 2020 #12
She must have taken the Hippocratic oath at Trump University. procon Apr 2020 #13
WTAF... What ever happened to "first do no harm"? Zoonart Apr 2020 #15
Trump U replaced it with; "get your own first, to hell with everyone else." nt procon Apr 2020 #27
WWJD??? LakeArenal Apr 2020 #16
Odd she didn't mention that because of TRUMP hospitals don't have enough ventilators CousinIT Apr 2020 #17
Here's a good article about ventilation janterry Apr 2020 #19
See post #36 (my post) davekriss Apr 2020 #37
Add Another Couple Of Million To That Lawsuit Me. Apr 2020 #20
FOX News supported keeping Terri Schiavo on life support for seven years. sop Apr 2020 #21
She was breathing on her own. Mariana Apr 2020 #38
It's the lengths Republicans will go to keep people alive when it serves their right to life agenda, sop Apr 2020 #46
Remember Bill Frist diagnosing her from afar? nt tblue37 Apr 2020 #43
When people take infectious disease advice ... GeorgeGist Apr 2020 #22
I can tell you as of right now covid-19 positive patients cannot be organ donors ismnotwasm Apr 2020 #23
The answer is obvious...the 65 yr old father probably has good insurance! ret5hd Apr 2020 #35
"And they're either going to survive or they're either going to die," ... DEbluedude Apr 2020 #24
Her credentials are tremendous, many say the best credentials they've ever seen mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #26
down in the pits of hell, Doctor Mengele is thrilled DBoon Apr 2020 #25
Screw faux news and everything they touch. I wouldn't ever, ever do what they suggest, SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #30
Are they talking this way to their core voters, just die already? ffr Apr 2020 #31
Wait a minute? Explain that Pro-life logic to me once again Under The Radar Apr 2020 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Apr 2020 #34
Fuck Fox News. How long one should remain on a ventilator is between a physician and their family, still_one Apr 2020 #39
They don't even try to hide it anymore. nt tblue37 Apr 2020 #41
Happens every day in America hack89 Apr 2020 #44
I find this sort of discussion absolutely terrifying. thucythucy Apr 2020 #45
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