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In reply to the discussion: UNBELIEVABLE! The Changing of Time [View all]SpankMe
(3,714 posts)I have a cousin from Texas. Hardcore conservative. Thought Obama was a joke. Wondered aloud why anyone would have gone to Obama's inauguration. He'd always been this way since he was born. We figured must be something in the water in Texas.
Then Trump entered the scene. Right after Trump got the nomination, my cousin went hard for Hillary. Thought (and still thinks) Trump's a laughingstock, incompetent and dangerous.
He sent money to Hillary's campaign and voted for her. And announces he did so - LOUDLY. In conversations with him, it became evident that he actually voted FOR Hillary and not against Trump. It was seriously not a protest vote. He preferred her policies overall.
Then, on the other hand, the brother of a very close friend of mine used to be a fierce, anti-establishment, anti-conservative liberal firebrand from high school through college and well into his 40's. Since Trump became POTUS, he's been surprisingly neutral on Trump. Unwilling to criticize him, always giving Trump a pass and how Trump still needs to be given a chance (after 3 years!) and pointing out how the Dems never complained when Obama and Clinton did the same thing that Trump is doing. (This, even though Obama never did anything that Trump is doing, and those areas of some overlap - like certain issues involving deportation and child separations that occurred under Obama - are differentiated in context, scope, rationale and humanity.)
Then there's those infuriating people to were staunch Obama supporters and then went hard for Trump citing Hillary as an imperfect candidate.