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jsmirman

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Wed Sep 12, 2012, 07:53 AM Sep 2012

A) This is a tragedy B) Let's be serious - this could send the election off the rails [View all]

First off, I am deeply saddened to wake up to the news of American civil servants losing their lives in the line of duty.

That hits very hard.

Secondly, I don't know that we can be blind to where this could go. This was an attack on American sovereignty.

Unless something has changed, my feel for the American populace is that we turn inward and favor insularity when we feel our sovereignty is threatened.

The Romney campaign is just the kind of irresponsible campaign to play this situation to the hilt - to light the powder keg with no thought for the consequences - they were already desperate, and they have also already shown that responsibility is of no concern to them.

I don't know that there is any getting around the idea that America's sovereign representatives could not be properly defended in the execution of their duties - that is not going to be good for any sitting President.

Among the worst elements of this - the most dangerous - is that were this to help lead to a Romney victory, a more bellicose and thoughtless foreign "policy" (we have already seen how dangerously thoughtless his approach to foreign policy is), we risk a return to the deadly, crippling mess of the Bush years, with damage to our ability to marshal our resources at home and deadly consequences for all Americans abroad.

That's scary.

There has to be some kind of tightrope-walking, perfectly nailed response by the Obama administration here - as I said, American sovereignty has been violated, and the people will want both reassurance and, I'm afraid, blood.

I don't think we can bury our heads on this - I would be surprised if this does not open a new volatile chapter in the public discussion of who should be the President in January of 2013.

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It's definitely a game changer lame54 Sep 2012 #1
How so? alcibiades_mystery Sep 2012 #27
It's red meat for the right to chew on... lame54 Sep 2012 #33
really? so I guess the Americans would like to invade Lybia and Egypt. That would show them how still_one Sep 2012 #40
What's with the lecture... lame54 Sep 2012 #45
you are right, the additional verbosity was not called for. To your point. The attention span still_one Sep 2012 #46
Technology - is there anything you can't do... lame54 Sep 2012 #53
Who knows, but I do believe Obama will rise above the fray. He always does /nt still_one Sep 2012 #59
I'm not worried about Obama's actions... lame54 Sep 2012 #61
Maybe. President Obama has the upper hand on foreign policy. All depends on how this lightcameron Sep 2012 #57
After the last 2 wars, I'm not sure so many want blood. mucifer Sep 2012 #2
This is the point I was trying to make this morning Biafran Sep 2012 #3
ABC News had a tv program EVERY night discussing Carter's failings. mucifer Sep 2012 #9
Absolutely - this is not remotely the same jsmirman Sep 2012 #13
this is much closer to Georgia-Russia 08... than Iran hostages 80.. oldhippydude Sep 2012 #60
He already has I am sure. Romney looks reckless and feckless and Obama looks CTyankee Sep 2012 #30
Absolutely agree! Obama will show his best...strong Raven Sep 2012 #38
Yeah, I agree. Romney is going to rapidly look like a total idiot. He doesn't understand Nay Sep 2012 #63
This is not the same as Carter's Iranian hostage crisis. WI_DEM Sep 2012 #48
Fucking ridiculous that your post got hidden. I read it and though I didn't agree lightcameron Sep 2012 #58
We need to start going after Romney... luvspeas Sep 2012 #4
Rootin' Tootin' Romney is the one off the rails C_U_L8R Sep 2012 #5
Romney is even more dangerous as a potential "leader" right now jsmirman Sep 2012 #10
+1,000! The contrast is stark. Romney's shoot from the Surya Gayatri Sep 2012 #12
Yes. Neither Romney nor Obama has all the facts yet. JDPriestly Sep 2012 #21
Exactly - this is no "game changer" treestar Sep 2012 #31
What we have here is three groups of civilians in three countries, no_hypocrisy Sep 2012 #6
Actually, I don't think we know that for sure either. It is just too soon to reach JDPriestly Sep 2012 #23
It won't be a game changer if Obama makes a powerful public condemnation - today. reformist2 Sep 2012 #7
Has it been officially established that Muslim terrorists are involved? lunatica Sep 2012 #20
Well, in Egypt they leftynyc Sep 2012 #24
I'm trying to figure out what's actually going on lunatica Sep 2012 #29
Romney is still lying untrustable weird out of touch Romney KurtNYC Sep 2012 #8
I think everyone can be glad "Mr. Diplomacy (sarcasm)" Romney isn't president right now gollygee Sep 2012 #11
This is NOT a "game-changer", folks. Obama will win in November. DinahMoeHum Sep 2012 #14
sad for me to admit blueknight Sep 2012 #15
It should open that discussion. Barack_America Sep 2012 #16
just relax, breathe. This is not a Game Changer. No one will remember this in a week NightWatcher Sep 2012 #17
You could be right - partially, I am shaken by the news of a US Ambassador killed jsmirman Sep 2012 #19
when more people watch Honey Boo Boo than can find Libya or Egypt on a map... NightWatcher Sep 2012 #22
It is an American Ambassador killed in the line of duty jsmirman Sep 2012 #28
how many American People got outraged at the number of troops KIA? NightWatcher Sep 2012 #35
They should have a similar impact jsmirman Sep 2012 #37
I felt the same way. Utter shock and then an awful feeling... CTyankee Sep 2012 #47
Very true get the red out Sep 2012 #26
Not true, Romney will shove this down the Presidents throat for the next ten weeks NotThisTime Sep 2012 #55
First we, the US need to find out if this was just a mob or a terrorist organization lunatica Sep 2012 #18
Exactly folks former-republican Sep 2012 #44
Not so. The pile on is already backfiring on Rmoney and the GOP. mfcorey1 Sep 2012 #25
I think the point is that they piled on. n/t nebenaube Sep 2012 #51
yep. it will keep Obama in the white house. spanone Sep 2012 #32
Absolutely not. treestar Sep 2012 #34
no its not quinnox Sep 2012 #36
"no its not" what? jsmirman Sep 2012 #39
its not something that will change the election or is a major event quinnox Sep 2012 #42
Are you kidding me? Even Erik Erikson said Romney needs to not speak about this right now. Jennicut Sep 2012 #41
If his campaign's blunders are any indication, we have seen what a Romney CTyankee Sep 2012 #49
Get serious. GeorgeGist Sep 2012 #43
The timing of the incident is curious, to say the least... Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #50
Good grief! Stop propping up ProSense Sep 2012 #52
Remember; this was a mob, not a country CanonRay Sep 2012 #54
I do not want Mr. Romney answering the phone at 3:00am CanonRay Sep 2012 #56
God help us if Mitt is elected nt maryellen99 Sep 2012 #62
Well, I hadn't counted on Romney being Romney jsmirman Sep 2012 #64
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