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sarisataka

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20. Nope, saying victory is a done deal

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 09:43 AM

Apr 2020

Is just as bad IMO. We did that in 2016.

What I want is to acknowledge that for all of his flaws he is an extremely tough opponent. Also he is backed by an organization willing to use every trick, loophole and deceitful act upto what the law allows, several steps farther if they believe they won't get caught.

It is going to take every Democrat to turn out to vote in November to give us a chance. It will require us to motivate the apathetic and undecided voters to support our candidates to push us past time line to victory.

Telling them the election is already decided, whether for or against, reinforces their perceptions that voting does not matter. If they believe that, they stay home and we lose.

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Hoping to defeat Trump this November may be a fools errand. [View all] shockey80 Apr 2020 OP

So then what's your plan? nt SouthernCal_Dem Apr 2020 #1

The only plan right now is to vote Trump out. That may be impossible. shockey80 Apr 2020 #5

Stop this defeatist crap already. We're not beaten yet. The country is seeing trump's... brush Apr 2020 #6

+1 Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2020 #8

We may not be beaten, but we're not fighting back nearly enough! Firestorm49 Apr 2020 #17

+1! berksdem Apr 2020 #28

That you for understanding my post. shockey80 Apr 2020 #38

Look at it this way. The virus is taking up all the press coverage now and has been since the last.. brush Apr 2020 #45

Thank you. cwydro Apr 2020 #19

Well maybe we should just dig a hole and climb in it Butterflylady Apr 2020 #26

Then you need a backup plan ck4829 Apr 2020 #36

I think we are in a double bind exboyfil Apr 2020 #10

Agree 100% chicoescuela Apr 2020 #2

Need to figure out his plans SlogginThroughIt Apr 2020 #3

Sometimes deepest fears are best left unexpressed. I prefer to motivate, not depress hlthe2b Apr 2020 #4

+1 Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2020 #9

Isn't that what the German people did under Hitler? shockey80 Apr 2020 #12

You aren't merely expressing deepest fears.. You are DEMORALIZING and THAT hlthe2b Apr 2020 #24

Thank you hlthe2b saidsimplesimon Apr 2020 #32

I did not say done deal, I did not say hopeless. shockey80 Apr 2020 #39

You said hoping to defeat Trump in November thucythucy Apr 2020 #64

Your interpretation is the correct one. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #68

Sounds like Troll behavior gabeana Apr 2020 #72

+1 jrthin Apr 2020 #21

Helpful post greenjar_01 Apr 2020 #7

Your welcome. shockey80 Apr 2020 #40

FYI: That's sarcasm. brush Apr 2020 #47

*You're* A HERETIC I AM Apr 2020 #73

Well fuck it then sarisataka Apr 2020 #11

Don't worry, we will easily defeat Trump this November. shockey80 Apr 2020 #14

Nope, saying victory is a done deal sarisataka Apr 2020 #20

No kidding. +1000 cwydro Apr 2020 #22

Waaah waaaah waaaah awesomerwb1 Apr 2020 #13

What a ray of sunshine! PubliusEnigma Apr 2020 #15

It's not just a "Democrat" problem. kentuck Apr 2020 #16

Elections are never fools' errands. And if this is what Hortensis Apr 2020 #18

Trump is going to destroy the election process. shockey80 Apr 2020 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author edbermac Apr 2020 #25

What kind of self-defeating nonsense is this? Stop crying about it and GOTV. kysrsoze Apr 2020 #27

Post removed ! stonecutter357 Apr 2020 #29

Joe is going to win LakeArenal Apr 2020 #30

Here we go again. . . . . . Jake Stern Apr 2020 #31

With all due respect: fuck that noise. Voltaire2 Apr 2020 #33

So throw your hands up and quit then. HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #34

Unrec. Tipperary Apr 2020 #35

I'm not content with "just vote" either, but I posted ideas for you in a similar thread ck4829 Apr 2020 #37

Ah, you again. Codeine Apr 2020 #41

Seems to be a real pattern. Tipperary Apr 2020 #46

K&R, Wisconsin was a trial run, CALL FOR VOTE BY MAIL !!!! uponit7771 Apr 2020 #42

On behalf of those who are fighting on the front lines MenloParque Apr 2020 #43

21 posts and you are talking bullshit? How dare you call me coward. shockey80 Apr 2020 #48

Sorry MenloParque Apr 2020 #50

New poster or not, their approach is a hell of a lot better than yours. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #54

At least the noob is being pragmatic and not defeatist obamanut2012 Apr 2020 #60

The real fools errand is a post like this. panader0 Apr 2020 #44

Deep. shockey80 Apr 2020 #49

Too deep for you pal? panader0 Apr 2020 #51

None of us are perfect , what can I say. I stick behind my post. shockey80 Apr 2020 #55

Lol, ok! Nt USALiberal Apr 2020 #69

You stick behind saying that trying to defeat Trump may be pointless? TwilightZone Apr 2020 #70

Do you understand what the word "may" means. shockey80 Apr 2020 #71

I agree with shockey, we need to sound the alarm and act on the fear of this happening njhoneybadger Apr 2020 #52

It's not over until the fat lady counts her chickens struggle4progress Apr 2020 #53

It's not over till it's over, that's true. shockey80 Apr 2020 #56

We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields struggle4progress Apr 2020 #57

Song of the leaders struggle4progress Apr 2020 #58

yawn obamanut2012 Apr 2020 #59

Ain't gonna let nobody turn me round struggle4progress Apr 2020 #61

Song of the French partisan struggle4progress Apr 2020 #62

Get up! Stand up! struggle4progress Apr 2020 #63

Even if Democrats win, what type of mess have they inherited? kentuck Apr 2020 #65

I never promised you a rose garden struggle4progress Apr 2020 #67

How can I keep from singing? struggle4progress Apr 2020 #66