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bhikkhu

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20. Automation is by far the biggest factor in manufacturing job losses
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:35 AM
Sep 2012

...and in any case the president's policies are working, and we have added 500,000 new manufacturing jobs in the last three years.

That we can't compete is a myth, commonly used to suppress wages. I don't buy it.

That the trade deficit is killing our economy is also a myth - it has been more or less steady at 3% of GDP for years, a small amount which is more than made up for by foreign investment here. A larger problem: in the same period health care costs have risen from 5% of GDP to 15%, swallowing 10% more of our economy than it does in most other countries, for less services per capita.

The primary factor for wage stagnation here is income inequality between the wealthy owners (taking record corporate profits) and the "executive class" taking massive salaries and bonuses. There are no foreigners to blame for the difference between our CEO's pay and the floor workers, and the US is one of the worst in pay differentials.

I can't even imagine a perspective that would shift the burden of responsibility for our poorly paid workers from the wealthy here to workers in other countries. Xenophobia has always been a popular tool of fascism? Labor can be broken by getting regular people to hate one another? If you can get a people to hate, they'll accept most anything?

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sad that that's what's being talked about because of this ibegurpard Sep 2012 #1
They cant tama Sep 2012 #6
Our son is starting his second year of teaching 3rd grade and after 6 years of school and..... yourout Sep 2012 #2
I thought all teachers in a given state, teaching a similar grade, got paid the same. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #3
What state? caraher Sep 2012 #5
Louisiana. But I just checked,and the districts do pay differently. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #8
That should be a starting salary............. mrmpa Sep 2012 #28
The master's is only about $1-$2k more. Sad, huh? My sis has a Master's. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #30
West Virginia is a state........... mrmpa Sep 2012 #32
Not in PA Freddie Sep 2012 #16
Public ed is the last hope for equity and fairness in our country. Reader Rabbit Sep 2012 #4
beautifully said, this should be an OP DonRedwood Sep 2012 #11
What, didn't you know? They make $90,000 per year! backscatter712 Sep 2012 #7
I make 42K --my 8th year teaching with a masters degree DonRedwood Sep 2012 #9
My daughter is a teacher in a charter school in South Florida, RebelOne Sep 2012 #31
I have to admit, I'd love to make what they make bhikkhu Sep 2012 #10
As long as American corporations keep sending jobs overseas, you unlikely to make that much money. Zalatix Sep 2012 #13
There's a lot of blame to go around bhikkhu Sep 2012 #15
Why not? The world has built big wall to keep American workers out. Zalatix Sep 2012 #17
Automation is by far the biggest factor in manufacturing job losses bhikkhu Sep 2012 #20
The trade deficit is adding directly to our national debt. It translates to MILLIONS of jobs lost. Zalatix Sep 2012 #22
Only if you believe the national debt is costing us millions of jobs bhikkhu Sep 2012 #24
So you're in favor of preserving the existing global barriers against American workers. Gotcha. Zalatix Sep 2012 #27
That is a key. Automation has caused a decline in manufacturing jobs in China, too. pampango Sep 2012 #26
"... its not their fault that I don't make more money. ... the problem isn't that they are paid too pampango Sep 2012 #18
I want to thank you for asking exactly the right question.... phantom power Sep 2012 #21
My wife recently retired after 31 years teaching and no, they absolutely do not get paid too much rl6214 Sep 2012 #12
I think we need plcdude Sep 2012 #23
+1 Such basic distinctions -- mean vs median, teachers vs administrators ... eppur_se_muova Sep 2012 #25
Teachers get paid TOO DAMNED LITTLE for the shit they put up with. Zalatix Sep 2012 #14
When I volunteer in my daughter's class, I'm exhausted after a couple hours... phantom power Sep 2012 #19
It all comes back to the absurd way we fund education here. It was a bad idea in the 19th century, Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #29
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