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essme

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90. What a dick. Seriously it would give freedom to people....

Thu Apr 9, 2020, 09:25 PM

Apr 2020

...to retire in their 50's instead of working themselves to death for employer paid health care til 65. For people without employer paid HC at least it gives then 5 or 10 YEARS to retire earlier.

I hate Lieberman - and Gore must have had blinders on when he selected him as VP. Still won the popular vote but lost the EC. Lieberman exited NO ONE. Kind of like Kaine who was definitely nicer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Kaine and an NOT an actual "dickweed middle of the roader" but still as exciting as a vanilla soda.

I sure hope that Biden does not pull what Hillary Clinton and Al Gore pulled with their bad or weak selections. Neither Lieberman nor Kaine won either candidate a swing state. Kaine was nice (really nice) but fuck all, please...Lieberman? WTF?!

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Hot damn: Biden rolls out Medicare and student debt proposals [View all] Recursion Apr 2020 OP

open medicare to thos who want it (gradually lower the age limit over time?) msongs Apr 2020 #1

Offer it to all young people as they enter the workforce and keep them on it as they age csziggy Apr 2020 #7

Love the Medicare but not so much on student debt Claustrum Apr 2020 #2

We can tweak the numbers Recursion Apr 2020 #3

Most people earning 125K SLClarke Apr 2020 #21

I lived in all 3 places you mentioned and earned 70k+ that time Claustrum Apr 2020 #23

Especially depending on the job. LisaM Apr 2020 #49

It also depend on the size of the student debt. Claustrum Apr 2020 #53

there is a demographic this will really help mike_c Apr 2020 #66

I am definitely on-board with helping people in your situation. Claustrum Apr 2020 #67

I would be satisfied if they'd just make those loans dischargable in bankruptcy mike_c Apr 2020 #70

I don't necessarily think people who are single should be penalized. LisaM Apr 2020 #78

I dont agree Tink41 Apr 2020 #61

Once again, I didn't say no help at all. Claustrum Apr 2020 #64

Ok Tink41 Apr 2020 #69

That's why I said the tuition should be linked to employment aspect Claustrum Apr 2020 #72

If you are making 125K and still consider yourself to be struggling...? ConnorMarc Apr 2020 #76

If you are 60 making $125 k maybe you can get your own healthcare . I wonder if there will lunasun Apr 2020 #62

Not many student debt holders are making anywhere near to 125k. I say get them.. brush Apr 2020 #79

Early negotiating xmas74 Apr 2020 #98

But Joe isn't progressive enough, right?? bearsfootball516 Apr 2020 #4

No, he isn't. ConnorMarc Apr 2020 #77

Play it smart and there will be no regrets. Boomerproud Apr 2020 #5

It was Bernie vercetti2021 Apr 2020 #6

It's Bernie's voters. Igel Apr 2020 #17

They don't vote anyways vercetti2021 Apr 2020 #18

wrong questionseverything Apr 2020 #33

well said, I can never figure out why people continue to put down bernie supporters yaesu Apr 2020 #39

i think what we have to concentrate on is biden's actions,not his supporters questionseverything Apr 2020 #43

Sanders' big mistake was dipping in and out of the party when he wanted to run. brush Apr 2020 #80

the kind of ideas announced today can really build excitement and unity questionseverything Apr 2020 #106

Just sayin', it could've been him. brush Apr 2020 #112

Thanks Bernie for helping this to happen. Sienna86 Apr 2020 #25

Yes he does. Raven123 Apr 2020 #44

If Biden loses ConnorMarc Apr 2020 #84

I will blame where blame is due vercetti2021 Apr 2020 #87

Post removed Post removed Apr 2020 #88

15% vercetti2021 Apr 2020 #89

YOU'RE pissed? ConnorMarc Apr 2020 #91

Ah there it is vercetti2021 Apr 2020 #92

Good. ConnorMarc Apr 2020 #100

We will. John Fante Apr 2020 #101

How rude Hekate Apr 2020 #107

Gradually lowering the age for Medicare eligibility is the only way to get from where we are SoonerPride Apr 2020 #8

Yep. That's how it's going to happen (nt) Recursion Apr 2020 #13

Exactly. Zoonart Apr 2020 #57

That was my idea as well. And corporations should support it Ilsa Apr 2020 #30

It seems too logical for people not to get on board with it SoonerPride Apr 2020 #40

Unless they're being bribed FiveGoodMen Apr 2020 #51

I've said this since Day 1. xmas74 Apr 2020 #102

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2020 #9

You have to the get the votes and this is the way you start the ball rolling eleny Apr 2020 #10

Thanks for that! tecelote Apr 2020 #48

How would the logistics of this work? ck4829 Apr 2020 #12

Uh, no. MineralMan Apr 2020 #15

I'm with you! burrowowl Apr 2020 #37

YESSSSSS!!!!!! Time to go make a donation! Maru Kitteh Apr 2020 #11

Medicare costs me a lot more per month more than the ACA ever did............ Bengus81 Apr 2020 #14

Wow, that's amazing.. mountain grammy Apr 2020 #19

No, 'most' aren't under that impression. SMC22307 Apr 2020 #95

I did get a subsidy on mine but I don't see how that guy is paying $1200 per month... Bengus81 Apr 2020 #113

It's a start MoonlitKnight Apr 2020 #16

Thanks to Sanders and Warren who pushed for these. This makes me happy! liberalmuse Apr 2020 #20

and thanks to biden for being open to the ideas! questionseverything Apr 2020 #28

Oh hell yeah! liberalmuse Apr 2020 #32

i would still love to see warren as vp questionseverything Apr 2020 #34

Me too. liberalmuse Apr 2020 #36

she is a detail person...let joe provide the big picture,let liz get it done! questionseverything Apr 2020 #42

And we need him to follow through Raven123 Apr 2020 #45

Yes, getting majorities puts our progressives in a good position... Beartracks Apr 2020 #103

These both apply to me and would literally change my life/nt B Stieg Apr 2020 #22

Neither apply to me but I have been a big supporter of both ideas lunasun Apr 2020 #63

Thank you! B Stieg Apr 2020 #93

Good first steps Bettie Apr 2020 #24

Hands up who DIDN'T see this coming rocktivity Apr 2020 #26

I'm fine with that as a a quasi centrist HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #83

Yesss! smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #27

Some great ideas there from our next President! n/t Just_Vote_Dem Apr 2020 #29

That student debt thing will be huge. That will mean a lot. To a lot of folks. SKKY Apr 2020 #31

These Are Bolder Moves Than Many Expected Indykatie Apr 2020 #35

KR! Cha Apr 2020 #38

Hope student loan forgiveness ... RoadRising Apr 2020 #41

i think there were already plans in place to forgive those loans questionseverything Apr 2020 #47

Hope so, I'll check it out RoadRising Apr 2020 #58

wc to du...this article has some info to be aware of questionseverything Apr 2020 #60

Good that he's taking HRC's lead on dropping the age for Medicare eligibility ehrnst Apr 2020 #46

BIden and sanders pamdb Apr 2020 #50

Doctors and lawyers are also more likely to have significant student debt. meadowlander Apr 2020 #75

I don't think it's begrudging. Claustrum Apr 2020 #81

Cancelling all existing student debt would essentially pay for itself over 10-15 years meadowlander Apr 2020 #82

Thank you for the article Claustrum Apr 2020 #85

I like the student loan forgiveness Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #52

Medicare for all. n/t zentrum Apr 2020 #54

I love the Medicare for 60 Tribetime Apr 2020 #55

Gooooo Joe! 👏👏👏👏👏 SheltieLover Apr 2020 #56

Good to see Joe isn't taking any chances and not taking anything for granted. nt Quixote1818 Apr 2020 #59

Currently, if you take Medicare before SharonClark Apr 2020 #65

I agree. We have a similar stance on student debt. n/t Claustrum Apr 2020 #68

Or nurses blm Apr 2020 #73

You are thinking of Social Security not Medicare SoonerPride Apr 2020 #94

Can you take Medicare before 65 ? Or do you mean for disabled they get less healthcare? Or that lunasun Apr 2020 #114

K&R ismnotwasm Apr 2020 #71

It's a start on student debt DeminPennswoods Apr 2020 #74

We almost had a Medicare buy in for 55 year olds, but for Lieberman in 2009 andym Apr 2020 #86

What a dick. Seriously it would give freedom to people.... essme Apr 2020 #90

I agree andym Apr 2020 #97

And you can be sure that the insurance industry lined Lieberman's pockets in gold. nt ooky Apr 2020 #104

I wish he had gone for Medicare at 55, but I'll take 60. SMC22307 Apr 2020 #96

K&R Blue Owl Apr 2020 #99

In the middle of a pandemic notinkansas Apr 2020 #105

Were you awake when Joe pushed the ACA through? You have any idea what's really in that? Hekate Apr 2020 #108

medicare @ 60 is in addition to questionseverything Apr 2020 #109

Too many people notinkansas Apr 2020 #110

people that are unemployed should be able to get medicaid or a fully subsided premium questionseverything Apr 2020 #111

I'm not seeing lowering the eligibility age notinkansas Apr 2020 #116

honestly i feel his student loan forgival is too generous and his healthcare too lean but questionseverything Apr 2020 #117

I wish they would upgrade medicare to medicaid Tribetime Apr 2020 #115