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In reply to the discussion: Get the U.S. OUT of the middle east, who's with me? [View all]woo me with science
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"Substantive response," my ass. You took my specific, accurate description of what we are doing....crossing sovereign borders of countries where we are not even at war and slaughtering human beings without judicial process, labeling them as "militants" based on their having been slaughtered....and you shamelessly slapped a neocon label on it, "justified military conflicts" with no justification whatsoever.
You have not given an argument here. You are dispensing Third Way, neocon talking points....as always.
This "electoral consequences" argument is perhaps the height of Third Way duplicity. Our *real* problem is that we now have TWO parties spreading corporate/right-wing propaganda through all forms of media. We saw it in the debt ceiling debate, when Obama had the chance to correct twelve years of Republican lies about the economy and what is needed to fix it, but instead chose to give speeches about pea eating and austerity, and to cement the Republican, now Third Way, narrative. And we see the very same thing happening with every other issue related to economics, war, or the police state. We see it with education and unions. Instead of correcting the despicable right-wing narrative that has justified bashing unions, lengthening work hours, and slashing benefits and vacation time for Americans all across this country while the rich get richer, Obama remains silent with his friend Rahm as unions are trashed all over the media, and we are fed the outrageous LIE that standing up for American workers would be damaging in the election.
And we are now, from BOTH parties, fed daily corporate propaganda trying to paint this outrageous, utterly unjustifiable slaughter and warmongering in the Middle East as merely "support for Israel." What utter neocon garbage. Americans endure the daily sucking of our tax dollars from schools and bridges and libraries and social safety nets into drones and police state infrastructure and the metastasizing military industrial complex, and we are continually fed the right-wing/Republican/Third Way propaganda to justify it, as though there were no other sane or responsible choice. Conflating our history of alliance with Israel with the neocon atrocities that are being committed in our name, and threatening electoral suicide if we dare to stand up and speak honestly about what our government is doing, is textbook neocon/Republican/Third Way bullshit.