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Proud Liberal Dem

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62. This story is unsettling and I don't know what to think

Sun Apr 12, 2020, 03:30 PM

Apr 2020

I've read a few articles about it that have raised some of the questions mentioned here and I have lots of left-leaning friends on my FB posting this story and/or others calling him a "rapist" at least a thousand times a day and vowing never to vote for him, not in the primary, nor the general (which is their right, of course) but I don't really have any good responses about this and have mostly stayed silent about it and not even talked about who I'm voting for in November. I do wonder why Trump/GOP haven't started jumping on this story yet (and it's not like Trump is too distracted by the Pandemic to tweet about everything else)? Does anybody know what the Biden camp is saying? I find it strange that nothing came up when he ran for VP with Obama back in 2009. Also, the story seems rather extreme for Biden. I don't know the guy personally and I know that he has had some issues about being "touchy" and making some women feel uncomfortable but it's hard to see him being really awful like this, especially in such a public area. How do we discuss and litigate this?

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Tara Reade's public incident report does not mention Joe Biden by name. [View all] lapucelle Apr 2020 OP

I wonder how much she getting paid . . . . Iliyah Apr 2020 #1

My thoughts as well. brush Apr 2020 #6

Putin operative. HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #2

... lapucelle Apr 2020 #3

only misguided in that it hurts her later credibility DBoon Apr 2020 #32

Post removed Post removed Apr 2020 #4

That's why facts matter, and folks should read them. lapucelle Apr 2020 #7

SO many problems with her NEW story Roland99 Apr 2020 #5

oy..I'm getting too old for this sh*t.. stillcool Apr 2020 #8

This seems to be a mentally disturbed person mcar Apr 2020 #9

Before you reject this out-of-hand, Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #10

Good point, we would not question anything if it was a GOPer. nt USALiberal Apr 2020 #12

She's a known liar. That's why people are questioning it. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #14

Evidence? I've seen nothing that suggests that she is a "known liar." Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #18

If you've been searching then you should know. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #23

What you are doing feels like vidtim blaming. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #34

Questioning the consistencies of a victim who us accusing a man of rape is not victim blaming. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #37

And everyone is consistent in everything they do or say, Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #44

Amber Heard changed everything blue cat Apr 2020 #59

I expect a level of consistency in any accusation - whether about sexual assault or whatever. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #70

If she retracted her statement, that would be further proof of her veracity. OilemFirchen Apr 2020 #97

I think you're right, unfortunately. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #103

To insist on believing women only because they're women Hortensis Apr 2020 #157

Then BGBD Apr 2020 #144

This Is Classic Begging The Question, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #149

She said videohead5 Apr 2020 #175

You will have to videohead5 Apr 2020 #176

There are a lot of inconsistencies, and this bullshit is being pushed by Sanders surrogates such as still_one Apr 2020 #68

Evidence Casts Doubt on Tara Reade's Sexual Assault Allegations of Joe Biden Cha Apr 2020 #77

Thanks Cha, I'll correct. When I do it on my phone the cut/paste misses sometimes still_one Apr 2020 #78

You're Welcome! Cha Apr 2020 #81

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2020 #115

There would be a record with the Capitol Police and I'm certain if there was one... Historic NY Apr 2020 #83

One would think the complaint report is kept in archive FloridaBlues Apr 2020 #111

Then here's the biggest problem she filed a complaint with DC Metro Police... Historic NY Apr 2020 #112

Didn't know that. Why didn't her lawyer tell her that? FloridaBlues Apr 2020 #126

There's also this that she tweeted as the polls were closing on Super Tuesday.... George II Apr 2020 #85

Well, there it is. Sounds like the "justice" she wants is R B Garr Apr 2020 #177

Is there anything to counter what the person claimed? That much turn about in any story would make uponit7771 Apr 2020 #114

Thank you for your posts wildflower Apr 2020 #134

She also made statements supportive of Biden mzmolly Apr 2020 #40

Your last part really stands out. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #41

This Article On Medium May Help Out Me. Apr 2020 #133

Hi Me.. if you take the "@" out of the url the link works... Cha Apr 2020 #137

OMG How Is That Getting In There Me. Apr 2020 #140

For some reason that's the way Medium does it.. Cha Apr 2020 #141

I JUst Went Back & Looked Me. Apr 2020 #143

I wish! Cha Apr 2020 #145

I would still question why Business Insider reported the way they did. lapucelle Apr 2020 #19

How business insider reports is not (necessarily) anyway Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #22

The purpose of the OP was to share the facts about the incident report. lapucelle Apr 2020 #28

Your statement is not true, at least I am not part of that "we". MH1 Apr 2020 #63

Bull... Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #13

Well done. tazkcmo Apr 2020 #16

Boom! Kingofalldems Apr 2020 #20

Virtually all of that is also consistent with a victim of sexual abuse. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #21

This just isn't true. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #26

Too bad what it "feels like" to you. Tara Reade's story Cha Apr 2020 #27

I've read it. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #38

Then Stop Accusing Biden Supporters of "dismissing it out of hand". Cha Apr 2020 #49

"Putin operative" Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #52

No.. we've read the the facts & are NOT "Dismising it out of hand" like Cha Apr 2020 #56

So what evidence do you have that Putin is behind this? Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #58

You're not helping your case by acting like there's no "evidence".. Cha Apr 2020 #61

I've read it. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #69

Still not helping your case. Cha Apr 2020 #71

... HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #122

Like you are dismissing the NYT article out of hand? ehrnst Apr 2020 #172

Post removed Post removed Apr 2020 #173

Your posts indicate otherwise. ehrnst Apr 2020 #174

It is being examined. And some are upset that the goal isn't to simply ehrnst Apr 2020 #160

Reade accused Biden of rape? Do you have a link? N/T lapucelle Apr 2020 #36

Rape Shield laws-- thucythucy Apr 2020 #75

That's a pretty laughable post there. Someone has glaring, at best, OnDoutside Apr 2020 #84

enough!! Anyone can make an allegation... stillcool Apr 2020 #105

Was her March 3 "tic toc" tweet consistent? pnwmom Apr 2020 #125

Who here is blaming the "victim?" Happy Hoosier Apr 2020 #169

Thank you for this. Sometimes people claim the moral high ground while they're standing Baltimike Apr 2020 #24

Thank you, DI.. you've summed that up well from all Cha Apr 2020 #25

Remember Al Franken! Kingofalldems Apr 2020 #30

That's a good point. OnDoutside Apr 2020 #86

Good information! mzmolly Apr 2020 #42

Wait...what? I linked to a reliable news source concerning the facts of a story lapucelle Apr 2020 #15

I was not speaking specifically to you. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #17

Follow your own advice. Cha Apr 2020 #29

Um, I am? Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #35

No one is dismissing it out of hand. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #39

How about you read the first half-dozen responses in this thread. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #50

What makes you think they haven't reached that conclusion by doing their own research? Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #64

I am dismissing it out of hand Joe Biden could never do this and she is lying.... Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #119

What allegation about rape? lapucelle Apr 2020 #43

Digital penetration is rape, in most jurisdictions. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #48

Has Ms. Reade used the word rape? N/T lapucelle Apr 2020 #53

The first reports I saw used the word rape. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #57

I'll take that to mean that Ms. Reade has not used the word "rape". lapucelle Apr 2020 #73

"Check your confirmation bias." Ms Toad Cha Apr 2020 #45

I have not reached a conclusion one way or the other about the veracity of this allegation Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #47

Has Ms. Reade used the word "rape"? N/T lapucelle Apr 2020 #54

This year, she described Biden as touching her under her clothing alp227 Apr 2020 #90

So she hasn't used the word "rape". N/T lapucelle Apr 2020 #95

Are you voting for Biden in November? HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #123

Why are you peddling anti-Democratic viewpoint so viscerally? GeorgiaPeanut Apr 2020 #146

Your posts indicate otherwise. ehrnst Apr 2020 #163

I would have doubted it then too. Loki Liesmith Apr 2020 #31

Has Democracy Now interviewed any of Trump's mzmolly Apr 2020 #51

I don't have to pose a hypothetical, given that a similar situation actually happened. W_HAMILTON Apr 2020 #55

It may or may not turn out to be true - Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #60

That is just your opinion. The NY Times article attempted to get at the truth... W_HAMILTON Apr 2020 #66

By discrediting vs truth, do you mean how she neglected to name her alleged assailant in the police Skya Rhen Apr 2020 #91

What truth? HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #147

Your posts indicate that you have clearly decided that her allegations are true. ehrnst Apr 2020 #161

Like always, I start by assessing the credibility of the accuser. Happy Hoosier Apr 2020 #67

1 & 2 are more characteristic of rape and sexual assault survivors than not. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #80

If she wants her accusation to be treated seriously, let her include his name in the police report. Skya Rhen Apr 2020 #96

As a survivor of sexual assault myself.... Happy Hoosier Apr 2020 #108

I think that like Norma McCorvey, there are those who have ehrnst Apr 2020 #164

The NYT looked at the story and the facts did not hold up Gothmog Apr 2020 #102

... HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #120

Why do you think she filed a report, supposedly for her "protection," pnwmom Apr 2020 #129

Good question. mzmolly Apr 2020 #131

Maybe because it's a felony to file a false police report pnwmom Apr 2020 #136

Excellent point.. TY. Cha Apr 2020 #142

Yep. mzmolly Apr 2020 #148

Before posting, check your facts kcr Apr 2020 #150

What fact are you suggesting is wrong? n/t pnwmom Apr 2020 #153

Just about everything she's posting n/t kcr Apr 2020 #154

And I spent more than a decade prosecuting and defendings sexual assault cases qazplm135 Apr 2020 #178

You make some very good points quazpim135. FM123 Apr 2020 #181

I mean a guilty person can be smart qazplm135 Apr 2020 #182

Thanks for your answer! FM123 Apr 2020 #185

She reminds me of the person who said someone carved Obama on her face Politicub Apr 2020 #11

It's curious she wouldn't name Biden in her police report... Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #33

Isn't It Odd To File a Complaint and Not Mention The Attacker's Name Indykatie Apr 2020 #46

This story is unsettling and I don't know what to think Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #62

Biden has categorically denied it. still_one Apr 2020 #72

He was VP and and underwent extensive clearance by the FBI ...this person Tara whoever has no Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #117

Biden was not my first choice (Warren was) Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #135

Didn't she also claim that Putin was interested in her? RandySF Apr 2020 #151

I believe that I have heard that Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #158

We investigate the allegations. We look at the facts. ehrnst Apr 2020 #167

+1 Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #168

The safety is called offering a false report for filing. Historic NY Apr 2020 #65

Exactly. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #74

So Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #76

Yes. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #82

Good question. Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #88

That is proof enough that she is filing a false report GeorgiaPeanut Apr 2020 #79

Why did the New York Times do an unacknowledged edit? Celerity Apr 2020 #87

It says "updated" in the 12:23 PM byline. lapucelle Apr 2020 #94

Probably their legal department would be my guess, it just caught my eye as I had the original Celerity Apr 2020 #98

I think it was the legal department too. N/T lapucelle Apr 2020 #100

+1 Celerity Apr 2020 #101

NYT acknowledged this edit on Twitter alp227 Apr 2020 #109

cool, thanks for the info! Celerity Apr 2020 #110

I think authorities should get her & Biden to take a polygraph test dustyscamp Apr 2020 #89

Hard to do when she refuses to name Biden in her police report. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #92

And expand publicity? Not the best way to make this go away. nt oasis Apr 2020 #106

What the fuck, do you watch too much Dragnet? Tarc Apr 2020 #139

Most of us know here that here story is all over the place and she is probably lying dustyscamp Apr 2020 #183

lolololol a polygraph obamanut2012 Apr 2020 #156

To what end? Happy Hoosier Apr 2020 #170

Forgot to add this, Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #93

What is a majority China owned company? N/T lapucelle Apr 2020 #130

New York Times 'Deep Dive' Clears Joe Biden Of Sexual Misconduct: 'No Pattern' Of Bad Behavior Gothmog Apr 2020 #99

Thank you for this, Goth! Unsurprisingly, the NYT found no evidence that Biden sexually assaulted.. Cha Apr 2020 #104

Umm, I think that was sarcastic (at best) since it's coming from the daily wire Rstrstx Apr 2020 #128

Post removed Post removed Apr 2020 #107

Money healthnut7 Apr 2020 #113

She launched a lawsuit several years ago saying she was discriminated against for being white OKNancy Apr 2020 #116

Wow.. Thanks for that, OKNancy.. Cha Apr 2020 #138

It sounds like she's a fry short of a happy meal MustLoveBeagles Apr 2020 #152

This woman is shady as fuck. NT Happy Hoosier Apr 2020 #171

Thank you for this. thucythucy Apr 2020 #179

THIS is probably only the beginning of the shit they will throw at Joe. spanone Apr 2020 #118

I think it's important to correct the record. I've also done enough campaign lapucelle Apr 2020 #124

Tara Reade is a fraud DenverJared Apr 2020 #121

I never believed Tara Reade la-trucker Apr 2020 #127

I'm no big Biden fan Skittles Apr 2020 #132

Vox did the same thing kcr Apr 2020 #155

Avoiding a false report charge? ehrnst Apr 2020 #159

Who is the blond women in the gif in your sig line? lapucelle Apr 2020 #165

That was an Italian interpreter listening to what she had to translate... ehrnst Apr 2020 #166

This woman does not need to be believed. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2020 #162

Meanwhile, a couple dozen women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct Clash City Rocker Apr 2020 #180

This woman is mentally ill, I think. Ilsa Apr 2020 #184

Yeah, and...? ConnorMarc Apr 2020 #186

... lapucelle Apr 2020 #188

Joan Walsh at the Nation-The Troublesome Tara Reade Story Gothmog Apr 2020 #187