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43. Fair enough. It just sounded to me like he was urging immediate action.

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:51 PM

Sep 2012

Since he didn't specify before or after, I guess we can agree that it would be a really bad idea to change our policy before. Now, turning to after: what would be the consequences for the Democratic party if the president, after getting reelected, abandoned his pledge to have Israel's back? I think first of all that it would be an ineffectual move, as the House and Senate would block it. And I think it would split the party in ways that would be very damaging going forward.

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Get the U.S. OUT of the middle east, who's with me? [View all] Philosoraptor Sep 2012 OP

I would pull out all our troops, money and embassy staff Marrah_G Sep 2012 #1

Let's go with your plan and consider the consequences. onenote Sep 2012 #4

I'm not talking about what plays well in elections Marrah_G Sep 2012 #12

How do you KNOW that's "what's right?" Bake Sep 2012 #64

We all have our opinions on what is right. Marrah_G Sep 2012 #66

How utterly predictable. woo me with science Sep 2012 #20

If you are referring to your own post, I agree onenote Sep 2012 #23

Oh please. woo me with science Sep 2012 #26

Have you lost your mind or just your ability to read onenote Sep 2012 #34

Since when does support mean feeding bad habits? malokvale77 Sep 2012 #35

It doesn't and it shouldn't onenote Sep 2012 #36

The OP doesn't say now or before the election. malokvale77 Sep 2012 #41

Fair enough. It just sounded to me like he was urging immediate action. onenote Sep 2012 #43

Once again... malokvale77 Sep 2012 #45

And once again, I agree onenote Sep 2012 #49

True... malokvale77 Sep 2012 #54

I don't want to cave in to Christian Dominionists who are trying to stir things up in the Middle E. amandabeech Sep 2012 #52

Leave the embassies, phase everything else out. hifiguy Sep 2012 #47

Let them all riot themselves to death, all I care. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #2

Remind me again - are we still largely dependent on Petroleum? el_bryanto Sep 2012 #3

As always the voice of reason pipes in Philosoraptor Sep 2012 #7

True tama Sep 2012 #13

The only downside is that cars running on Cannabis have a top speed of 15 miles per hour el_bryanto Sep 2012 #16

What's the hurry? tama Sep 2012 #17

Yeah but after inhaling the exhaust SomethingFishy Sep 2012 #37

"The only downside is that cars running on Cannabis ..." KansDem Sep 2012 #61

And what are we doing to wean ourselves from petroleum? Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2012 #56

You mean our dependency on the stuff that's killing life on Earth? Zalatix Sep 2012 #67

Noooooo! Biafran Sep 2012 #5

Bull shit! RC Sep 2012 #28

Enjoy your short stay. The pizza is good too. L0oniX Sep 2012 #46

Yes. HughBeaumont Sep 2012 #6

we will ALWAYS be mired in shit in the middle east. piratefish08 Sep 2012 #8

Get the U.S. out of the middle east OLDMDDEM Sep 2012 #9

We are not the policemen of the world woo me with science Sep 2012 #22

What's the difference? RC Sep 2012 #29

+10000 woo me with science Sep 2012 #33

"and they don't want us there" ellisonz Sep 2012 #10

Unfortunately, bothcorporate-funded parties think we should be there. woo me with science Sep 2012 #11

and what about the significant majority of the public that favors support for Israel? onenote Sep 2012 #18

How do you feel about proxy drone wars? Kill lists and extrajudicial assassinations? woo me with science Sep 2012 #19

I guess you don't have an answer to my question. onenote Sep 2012 #24

I gave you your answer. You didn't like it, woo me with science Sep 2012 #25

Good answer! RC Sep 2012 #30

So that there can be no question about where I stand: onenote Sep 2012 #48

You can label it all you want. All I said was that if our nation is in a justifiable onenote Sep 2012 #39

"and I don't think we're in one now" woo me with science Sep 2012 #62

That's a great idea! RevStPatrick Sep 2012 #14

How will they have world war 3/armageddon if we don't come? quinnox Sep 2012 #15

Well, this al-Qaeda-style Sunni Islamist group that attacked in Cairo for sure. Zax2me Sep 2012 #21

Yes, let Israel handle the whole situation slackmaster Sep 2012 #27

Three reasons why not nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #31

We can't. The US military is the private global police force for the 1% and their corporate Zorra Sep 2012 #32

"World, you're on your own!" randome Sep 2012 #38

I doubt that most citizens in any country would welcome a rachel1 Sep 2012 #40

I think we should have a heavy presence there. NCTraveler Sep 2012 #42

Yes. Let them come to us with their oil. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2012 #44

The US military is pretty much the The2ndWheel Sep 2012 #51

And, they're doing a piss-poor job of it. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2012 #53

Prisoners of history The2ndWheel Sep 2012 #58

Yup. But as you know, woo me with science Sep 2012 #63

Damned if we do and ... Damned if we dont! flyguyjake Sep 2012 #50

kick Zorra Sep 2012 #55

I'm with you. Mad-in-Mo Sep 2012 #57

I don't think we can completely leave.... Green_Lantern Sep 2012 #59

To do that.... Hab Habit Sep 2012 #60

Remember yesterday? Jeff In Milwaukee Sep 2012 #65

'Broa I been with you since the 70's. Care Acutely Sep 2012 #68

Isolationism does not necessarily lead to peace Generic Brad Sep 2012 #69

Get the hell out NOW! We don't Auntie Bush Sep 2012 #70

Then what? jp11 Sep 2012 #71

Kick Zorra Sep 2012 #72