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gateley

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Sat Jan 7, 2012, 10:54 AM Jan 2012

Hillary-Biden Swap Seen as the Nuclear Option [View all]

Not only is time running out for it to happen and make an impact, but talk of President Obama swapping Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for Vice President Joe Biden has died down because the veep actually helps the president with his base.

Democratic strategists say that Biden is proving to be a valuable link between the sometimes aloof-looking president and labor and blue-collar supporters. What's more, they say, he hasn't made the types of embarrassing flubs, like those of former Vice President Dan Quayle, to force Obama to reconsider who's on the 2012 re-election ticket. /snip

Still, we asked pollster John Zogby if his surveys sense a desire by Democrats for the type of radical change on the ticket that party elders have been calling for, including talk that either Hillary Clinton or former President Clinton be put in the Number Two slot.

"I'm not picking that up," says Zogby. "It's really not even significant cocktail party talk." /snip

oel K. Goldstein, author of The Modern American Vice Presidency: The Transformation of a Political Institution, agrees. In a recent post on the Rasmussen Reports site, he also dismissed the gossip about Biden being dumped.

"Not since 'Paul is dead' has a rumor based on so little proved as enduring as the prediction that President Barack Obama will dump Vice President Biden," he wrote, referring to a furor in the late 1960s over false reports that Beatles great Paul McCartney had died. McCartney is still very much alive.

And, he adds, it would be better for Hillary Clinton to stick to her plans to leave the Obama administration in order to help her chances for running in 2016. "If she plans to seek the presidency in 2016, she may prefer to stand apart from a second Obama administration to protect her independence," he says.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/01/06/hillary-biden-swap-seen-as-the-nuclear-option

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Biden and Clinton are where they are going to stay madokie Jan 2012 #1
Totally agree. nt gateley Jan 2012 #2
Indeed. This shit is just getting ridiculous. TheWraith Jan 2012 #14
Someone else posted it was thrown out there by the GOP to get the waters churning. gateley Jan 2012 #18
Actually, Robert Reich has been talking about it in his column or columns (just saw one today). CTyankee Jan 2012 #23
But I wonder where Robert Reich got it -- I think one of his columns said "I have no inside gateley Jan 2012 #27
Ok, I need to talk to my dtr tomorrow...I'll find out what's going on and PM you... CTyankee Jan 2012 #32
Not Hillary supporters. More likely the media trouble makers. juajen Jan 2012 #41
i would be royally pissed if this happened. roguevalley Jan 2012 #40
No, they are not. Beacool Jan 2012 #45
No need to do anything drastic at this point. DCBob Jan 2012 #3
Couldn't agree more. nt gateley Jan 2012 #5
"Not since 'Paul is dead' has a rumor based on so little proved as enduring" frazzled Jan 2012 #4
Bwah! I loved that! And you're right - these things take on a gateley Jan 2012 #6
There is at least one post per week on this treestar Jan 2012 #9
Yup. aquart Jan 2012 #34
I love Hillary, voted for her in the primaries- Raffi Ella Jan 2012 #7
This raises a question in my mind as to what Hillary will be doing after the election. CTyankee Jan 2012 #25
I remember her saying that. Raffi Ella Jan 2012 #44
And UFO's might visit the leprechauns jberryhill Jan 2012 #8
Stop making fun of Kucinich. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #39
Awwww... Now you done it... jberryhill Jan 2012 #42
It was a rumor manufactured by the GOP to sufrommich Jan 2012 #10
I really wondered how it started -- It could be something as gateley Jan 2012 #11
Democrat Robert Reich wrote an OpEd advocating replacing Biden with Clinton. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #21
This is manufactured poppycock from the Professional Shitstirrers (PS™) Stinky The Clown Jan 2012 #12
Yes it is legal. former9thward Jan 2012 #15
Not. Gonna. Happen. DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #13
Thank you for posting this. Even Zogby knows this is a rumor. jillan Jan 2012 #16
Aren't they though? (A perfect fit). nt gateley Jan 2012 #19
There's no reason to change out Biden high density Jan 2012 #17
"Talk of it has died down" because no one was actually talking about it, gkhouston Jan 2012 #20
'Time running out'? NO-- ProgressiveEconomist Jan 2012 #22
One of the more interesting parts of the Watergate scandal. Robb Jan 2012 #24
Question... Raine1967 Jan 2012 #29
Yep. nt Robb Jan 2012 #30
That's fascinating, I didn't remember that aspect. joshcryer Jan 2012 #31
Or, Hillary may be leaving the administration to give another hopeful a chance at heir-incumbent. moriah Jan 2012 #26
And I think Hillary might actually WANT to retire from government and work w/Bill (and gateley Jan 2012 #28
didn't she say she wouldn't serve a second term as SOS? CTyankee Jan 2012 #33
Yeah, but I honestly don't pay much attention to a lot of what they say because gateley Jan 2012 #35
As SOS, Hillary really shines, doesn't she? CTyankee Jan 2012 #38
I think she's been exceptional as SOS. gateley Jan 2012 #43
Nuclear Option among crackheads and GOP shills. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #36
I was in college when the "Paul is dead" nonsense started karynnj Jan 2012 #37
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