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Azathoth

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34. The *exact* same criticisms of Reade were leveled at Ford
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 10:48 PM
Apr 2020

1) She "changed" her story.

The Right wrote endless columns about how Blasey Ford supposedly "changed" parts of her story. I won't link to any since they will just be used a pretext to have this post removed, but if you google them, they're all over.

2) She's politically/ideologically motivated.

This one goes without saying. Ford's lawyer even outright admitted during a speech that protecting Roe was part of the motivation for going public.

3) She doesn't have a lot of contemporary witnesses.

Again, same situation with Reade. It was actually worse with Ford, because one of her key witnesses (who initially stated she didn't remember anything but believed her friend nonetheless) actually came out later and stated that she didn't think the allegation was true.

4) There was no pattern of behavior.

This situation changed slightly when additional accusers came forward after the Ford allegations came out (although Avenatti's antics unfortunately helped muddle them). Right now, however, there are more women accusing Biden of inappropriate behavior than were accusing Kavanaugh.

I will say that, for me, the Putin stuff is the reason I don't believe Reade. Putin is a kook magnet. He attracts unstable people with anti-Democratic Party agendas, from Glenn Greenwald and Jill Stein on the left, to Richard Spencer and Trump on the right. Anyone who writes love poems to him and then does something that hurts Democrats is inherently suspect as far as I'm concerned.

That said, I have enough self-awareness to realize that's a judgement call on my part rather than a logical argument disproving Reade. Anyone who does not share my distrust of Putin groupies will not feel the same way. Unless something really discrediting comes out, Democrats are going to face endless comparisons between Reade and Ford.

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It's not possible that this happened and nobody in Delaware talked about it. Walleye Apr 2020 #1
There's also no possibility it wouldn't have turned up The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #2
Good point. Walleye Apr 2020 #5
I trust the vetting done by President Obama Gothmog Apr 2020 #14
Me, too. I can't imagine any reason not to. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #21
Tara Reade knows it's a felony to file a false police report Cha Apr 2020 #3
So, basically every national media outlet has examined this charge mcar Apr 2020 #4
But, that won't stop Trump from seating Tara Reade in the front row at the debates, like he did sop Apr 2020 #8
but if the Trump accusers are seated.. stillcool Apr 2020 #11
And if social distancing is still in effect, an entire auditorium. sop Apr 2020 #12
Trump will not debate Biden Gothmog Apr 2020 #15
+100 Sneederbunk Apr 2020 #16
That should be of no account to Democrats mcar Apr 2020 #13
Even the articles pointing out the clear lack of credibility Hav Apr 2020 #6
If Joe Biden was a harasser more women would have come forward. kimbutgar Apr 2020 #7
Those scripts could be being written and roles cast as we sit here right now HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #19
You really think she's putin related? kimbutgar Apr 2020 #36
Ronan, Corgigal Apr 2020 #9
Reade wrote this: AJT Apr 2020 #10
So seems that she never brought up the charge the whole 8 years he was VP wishstar Apr 2020 #17
It came out during the waning days of the Sanders campaign. n/t mtngirl47 Apr 2020 #20
I expect Tara will show up at Trump events. DURHAM D Apr 2020 #18
Really? She actively opposes Trump nt alp227 Apr 2020 #28
With Trump on the ticket... mwooldri Apr 2020 #22
Thanks for this Martin Eden Apr 2020 #23
The story originated on the left...when diehard Bernie Sanders supporter Katie Halper hosted Reade.. ToxMarz Apr 2020 #24
Tara Reade's story is shaky enough that I have reasonable doubt. nt Sloumeau Apr 2020 #25
Agreed. nt BootinUp Apr 2020 #26
Excellent analysis of the situation. honest.abe Apr 2020 #27
First question at the Press Briefing Trump brings this up... moonseller66 Apr 2020 #29
The Right Biden response Roy Rolling Apr 2020 #30
I listened to Reade on the Halper podcast. wnylib Apr 2020 #31
Here's Richard Painter's Twitter link to Reade's bizarre Hortensis Apr 2020 #32
An allegation like this was inevitable for any male candidate. Hortensis Apr 2020 #33
The *exact* same criticisms of Reade were leveled at Ford Azathoth Apr 2020 #34
Here's the "love Russia with all my heart" essay Reade deleted from Medium. Hortensis Apr 2020 #35
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