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woo me with science

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62. "and I don't think we're in one now"
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:20 PM
Sep 2012

And that is the crux of the problem, isn't it. What an utterly stunning caveat you make there, in your sea of justifications. No, we're not in one now, even though our drones cross borders to slaughter human beings in multiple countries now, without judicial oversight and even though we are not at war with them. It's not just one area in which we don't have a "justifiable military conflict"; it's a veritable list. And that list will continue to grow for as long as corporate profiteers purchase Washington policy, and for as long as corporate-bought politicians and their mouthpieces justify the unjustifiable.

If you truly believe that we aren't in a justifiable military conflict right now, you would do well to spend your time raising awareness and activism about that, rather than engaging in this sort of bland, disingenuous defense of the indefensible through carefully worded, nonsensical caveats.

All the rest of your post is predictable right-wing spin: setting up a false choice between having troops on the ground and the unconscionable drone proxy wars we have now, accusing me of not being "calm" because I point out the fact that you are defending neocon policies just as surely as Republicans defended them under Bush, appealing to "defense of Israel" as an excuse for the policies I have described multiple times here but you can't justify, and, predictably, making the ludicrous argument that these policies could not possibly be neoconservative, because *Democrats* now pursue them. Good grief.

You will come back with more of the same, I am sure. DU is thick with it now. I am finished here, but it's important to label this sort of oh-so-familiar right-wing, neocon propaganda for what it is, whether it comes from corporate Republicans or corporate Third Way Democrats

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I would pull out all our troops, money and embassy staff Marrah_G Sep 2012 #1
Let's go with your plan and consider the consequences. onenote Sep 2012 #4
I'm not talking about what plays well in elections Marrah_G Sep 2012 #12
How do you KNOW that's "what's right?" Bake Sep 2012 #64
We all have our opinions on what is right. Marrah_G Sep 2012 #66
How utterly predictable. woo me with science Sep 2012 #20
If you are referring to your own post, I agree onenote Sep 2012 #23
Oh please. woo me with science Sep 2012 #26
Have you lost your mind or just your ability to read onenote Sep 2012 #34
Since when does support mean feeding bad habits? malokvale77 Sep 2012 #35
It doesn't and it shouldn't onenote Sep 2012 #36
The OP doesn't say now or before the election. malokvale77 Sep 2012 #41
Fair enough. It just sounded to me like he was urging immediate action. onenote Sep 2012 #43
Once again... malokvale77 Sep 2012 #45
And once again, I agree onenote Sep 2012 #49
True... malokvale77 Sep 2012 #54
I don't want to cave in to Christian Dominionists who are trying to stir things up in the Middle E. amandabeech Sep 2012 #52
Leave the embassies, phase everything else out. hifiguy Sep 2012 #47
Let them all riot themselves to death, all I care. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #2
Remind me again - are we still largely dependent on Petroleum? el_bryanto Sep 2012 #3
As always the voice of reason pipes in Philosoraptor Sep 2012 #7
True tama Sep 2012 #13
The only downside is that cars running on Cannabis have a top speed of 15 miles per hour el_bryanto Sep 2012 #16
What's the hurry? tama Sep 2012 #17
Yeah but after inhaling the exhaust SomethingFishy Sep 2012 #37
"The only downside is that cars running on Cannabis ..." KansDem Sep 2012 #61
And what are we doing to wean ourselves from petroleum? Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2012 #56
You mean our dependency on the stuff that's killing life on Earth? Zalatix Sep 2012 #67
Noooooo! Biafran Sep 2012 #5
Bull shit! RC Sep 2012 #28
Enjoy your short stay. The pizza is good too. L0oniX Sep 2012 #46
Yes. HughBeaumont Sep 2012 #6
we will ALWAYS be mired in shit in the middle east. piratefish08 Sep 2012 #8
Get the U.S. out of the middle east OLDMDDEM Sep 2012 #9
We are not the policemen of the world woo me with science Sep 2012 #22
What's the difference? RC Sep 2012 #29
+10000 woo me with science Sep 2012 #33
"and they don't want us there" ellisonz Sep 2012 #10
Unfortunately, bothcorporate-funded parties think we should be there. woo me with science Sep 2012 #11
and what about the significant majority of the public that favors support for Israel? onenote Sep 2012 #18
How do you feel about proxy drone wars? Kill lists and extrajudicial assassinations? woo me with science Sep 2012 #19
I guess you don't have an answer to my question. onenote Sep 2012 #24
I gave you your answer. You didn't like it, woo me with science Sep 2012 #25
Good answer! RC Sep 2012 #30
So that there can be no question about where I stand: onenote Sep 2012 #48
You can label it all you want. All I said was that if our nation is in a justifiable onenote Sep 2012 #39
"and I don't think we're in one now" woo me with science Sep 2012 #62
That's a great idea! RevStPatrick Sep 2012 #14
How will they have world war 3/armageddon if we don't come? quinnox Sep 2012 #15
Well, this al-Qaeda-style Sunni Islamist group that attacked in Cairo for sure. Zax2me Sep 2012 #21
Yes, let Israel handle the whole situation slackmaster Sep 2012 #27
Three reasons why not nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #31
We can't. The US military is the private global police force for the 1% and their corporate Zorra Sep 2012 #32
"World, you're on your own!" randome Sep 2012 #38
I doubt that most citizens in any country would welcome a rachel1 Sep 2012 #40
I think we should have a heavy presence there. NCTraveler Sep 2012 #42
Yes. Let them come to us with their oil. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2012 #44
The US military is pretty much the The2ndWheel Sep 2012 #51
And, they're doing a piss-poor job of it. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2012 #53
Prisoners of history The2ndWheel Sep 2012 #58
Yup. But as you know, woo me with science Sep 2012 #63
Damned if we do and ... Damned if we dont! flyguyjake Sep 2012 #50
kick Zorra Sep 2012 #55
I'm with you. Mad-in-Mo Sep 2012 #57
I don't think we can completely leave.... Green_Lantern Sep 2012 #59
To do that.... Hab Habit Sep 2012 #60
Remember yesterday? Jeff In Milwaukee Sep 2012 #65
'Broa I been with you since the 70's. Care Acutely Sep 2012 #68
Isolationism does not necessarily lead to peace Generic Brad Sep 2012 #69
Get the hell out NOW! We don't Auntie Bush Sep 2012 #70
Then what? jp11 Sep 2012 #71
Kick Zorra Sep 2012 #72
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