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intrepidity

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Tue Apr 21, 2020, 04:00 PM Apr 2020

Does the origin of the virus really matter? [View all]

Wait, please understand what I'm asking before you reply.

I'm not asking about the response (or lack thereof) to the outbreak.

I'm not asking whether there is scientific value in pinpointing the precise origin.

What I'm wondering is what the difference will be if we ultimately discover that the virus was accidentally released from a research lab, versus that it got to us via a bat (or pangolin) via the wet market in Wuhan.

In either case, I will assume it was an accident (for the sake of this thread, please don't bring into it otherwise).

In either case, the need for stronger preventative measures exists for both, and are no doubt being dealt with by the Chinese.

In either case, China is clearly at fault and should accept responsibility, whatever that means.

So then, does it matter?

I think it does, but I want to hear other opinions.

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Only if one is a racist DonaldsRump Apr 2020 #1
This. Different Drummer Apr 2020 #2
Either way it goes back to China. Igel Apr 2020 #4
yup Voltaire2 Apr 2020 #6
National origin, not racist spin is significant to fix it. Specific path, of course. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #14
You are equating one person, or party's intent with actual useful scientific information. Caliman73 Apr 2020 #27
this Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #31
Well, the 1918 flu started in Kansas. cwydro Apr 2020 #37
They aren't sure exactly where it started, but I understand your point :) Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #39
It started in China according to the National Geographic former9thward Apr 2020 #51
Not from what I've read. cwydro Apr 2020 #59
There are a few different places it might have started, including Kansas Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #67
I'd guess all the details would be useful. More understanding would help prevent some impacts. captain queeg Apr 2020 #3
Big assumption China is taking measures... JCMach1 Apr 2020 #5
True, big assumption intrepidity Apr 2020 #10
It matters to those trying to find a scapegoat... Wounded Bear Apr 2020 #7
Yes. If we nail down the facts the world can pressure China to MaryMagdaline Apr 2020 #8
Actually it matters , because we need to know the original RNA sequence prior to bobalew Apr 2020 #9
If I am understanding you correctly intrepidity Apr 2020 #13
Not only that, if it escaped from a lab then that lab is doing something wrong and Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #28
Well, that is exactly the subject of those StateDept memos intrepidity Apr 2020 #34
Covid-19 did not come from a lab. Mosby Apr 2020 #35
Not saying it was bioengineered intrepidity Apr 2020 #36
I agree Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #38
That article only addresses the idea of an engineered virus intrepidity Apr 2020 #42
I can give you my thoughts on it. Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #45
The jump could have happened in the lab. Crunchy Frog Apr 2020 #49
Maybe it could have Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #55
The most logical answer would be a scientific investigation and Crunchy Frog Apr 2020 #61
Reply intrepidity Apr 2020 #54
YES Raine Apr 2020 #11
Please elaborate intrepidity Apr 2020 #15
Wet markets need to be shut down Raine Apr 2020 #19
How about just restricting certain known reservoir animals? intrepidity Apr 2020 #20
couple of reasons Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #25
That's about as rational as saying shut down all vegetable stands in the USA. KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2020 #41
So which vegetables tend to carry diseases that can readily jump to humans? Crunchy Frog Apr 2020 #50
Don't know, I'm not a foodborne illness expert. KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2020 #52
There is a HUUUGE difference between a foodborne illness and Crunchy Frog Apr 2020 #62
We knew all those things already. KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2020 #64
Well, you actually compared "wet markets" with vegetable markets, Crunchy Frog Apr 2020 #65
If you know where something came from then you can try to prevent future outbreaks Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #21
Excellent example, thanks intrepidity Apr 2020 #23
It came from the Civet cat (not really a cat) Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #26
For scientific reasons, yes, it matters. nt Alex4Martinez Apr 2020 #12
Agreed nt intrepidity Apr 2020 #17
It is useful for scientists to pursue that line of inquiry because any research might help to totodeinhere Apr 2020 #16
It matters because the scientists that are trying to get ahead of new viruses need the data Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #18
Yes, the origin of the virus does matter...for the sake of science and public health. Caliman73 Apr 2020 #22
Great info, thanks for posting intrepidity Apr 2020 #30
Agreed. This is where the cooperation is needed. Caliman73 Apr 2020 #40
This is such an under-reported part of the picture intrepidity Apr 2020 #43
Bingo, thank you. KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2020 #48
The WHO is reporting that the cause of the virus is animals. WestLosAngelesGal Apr 2020 #24
So do I Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #29
That the virus is from an animal is not in doubt intrepidity Apr 2020 #32
For those interested, Spillover is a great book on zoonotic diseases Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #33
yes, it really does. not just for scientific reasons Amishman Apr 2020 #44
If China is implementing protective measures MenloParque Apr 2020 #46
In the long run, knowing where it came from Retrograde Apr 2020 #47
I think so, especially because so many people think it was engineered in a lab. ecstatic Apr 2020 #53
Good point NT anamnua Apr 2020 #56
Not to me it don't. But to a bunch of racists it's of utmost importance. Iggo Apr 2020 #57
Thats painting with an awfully broad brush. Crunchy Frog Apr 2020 #63
Yep. The broadest. Iggo Apr 2020 #66
So you're saying that many of the posters on this thread are racist, Crunchy Frog Apr 2020 #68
No. Iggo Apr 2020 #69
The difference may have to do with purification... AntiFascist Apr 2020 #58
Fascinating article about anthrax intrepidity Apr 2020 #60
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