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babylonsister

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Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:19 AM Apr 2020

"now do u still think it was just a flu?" [View all]

Borrowed from a friend: if you know of anyone who compares covid to the flu, this might be helpful.

This is a very clear, understandable explanation of why we cannot “open back up” right now.
Let me introduce myself: I am a practicing ER doctor with a Bachelors degree in cell and molecular biology/genetics and a Masters degree in public health in addition to my doctorate.

COVID is not a flu. Not even a little. Here are reasons why:

1. It is a separate species. It is no more like influenza than you are like a hippo. DIFFERENT SPECIES.

2. It is an airborne virus. This means the tiny droplets can stay in the air for a full 2 hours. So if a person coughed in aisle 4 of Target 1.5 hours ago, they may be home now but their covid cloud is still hanging there just waiting for you to walk by and take a breath.Kind of like when someone in the bean aisle farts and walks away, the smell stays in the Mexican and tomatoes aisle when the guy is all the way over in frozen foods. But you go to pick up a can of kidney beans for tonight's chili, it hits you in the face like a fastball. Influenza is not an airborne virus. It is droplet spread- meaning someone has to directly crop dust you with their sneeze to get you sick. Covid is much more contagious.

3. Covid is more virulent. Virulence factor is a measure of how catchy something is. For example, the flu is like beer. It takes a bunch to get you drunk. Covid is more like tequila - A little goes a long way. You need to suck up a lot of flu particles to actually catch the flu; with covid, even a few particles is enough to infect you.

4. Covid has a longer incubation than the flu. When you catch the flu, you typically get sick in the next 1-2 days. This is awesome because it means you stay at home while contagious because you feel like a heap of fried garbage. Covid has a blissful 5-9 days of symptom free time during which you are well enough to head to the movies, gym or mar-a-lago while also being contagious enough to infect everyone you encounter.

5. Covid has a longer duration of illness than flu. With covid, you have a 5-9 days of blissful asymptomatic contagiousness. This then turns into about 1 week of cough and overall feeling like hell but still surviving. Week 2 is when things hit the fan and people end up unable to breathe and on a ventilator. Many stay on the vent for up to 15 days. 5 days incubating+7 kinda sick days + 15 days on a ventilator makes for 27 days of virus spreading illness, (assuming your don’t just die of massive asphyxiation and body-wide collapse from overwhelming infection somewhere in that last week). The flu has an average incubation of 1-2 days and sick time of 7 days for a total of 9 infectious days. In the world of deadly viruses, that 18 extra days might as well be a millennia.

6. Covid is more deadly. A LOT more deadly. The flu has about a 0.2% mortality rate, meaning 2 of every thousand people who get sick with flu will die. On the contrary, the death rate from covid is reportedly 2%, so 10 times more deadly than flu. Ten times more death seems like a lot more death to me. Whats more worrisome is that 2% is actually incorrect because it doesn’t usually kill kids so that skews the average. With covid, age is a major factor in survival. If we don’t include people under 30, the death rate for adults is on average 4.5%. 9 out of every 200 adults that get this will die from it. Do you know 200 adults? Do you think losing 9 of them is no big deal? Since mortality increases with age in covid, the risk gets worse as you get older so if we put 100 grannies in a room with covid, only 85 would make it out alive to make pies and tell great stories of the old days... and that just sucks.

I hope that helps to clarify why covid is in no way a flu, why you are in no way a hippo, and why staying home is the only way for non-essential people to do their part while I spend my days at work covered in a plastic poncho, sucking air through a stuffy respirator mask, leaving my scrubs in my driveway, showering the covid off at 4am when I get in, and thinking to myself “now do u still think it was just a flu?” as I risk my own life with my face 2 inches from their highly contagious, gasping mouth while I slide the plastic tube down their throat and start up the ventilator.
- Dr. Peter Tippett
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and, Did 31 NYC cops die of the flu in the past month? n/t blitzen Apr 2020 #1
If at this point, people still believe this is "the flu," and I know maggots do, SheltieLover Apr 2020 #2
Since he was short by 3 million votes last time, CaptYossarian Apr 2020 #6
Who needs voters when Parscale is managing hackers? SheltieLover Apr 2020 #7
He didn't have to cheat while playing with Lindsay Graham. CaptYossarian Apr 2020 #11
LOL SheltieLover Apr 2020 #13
7. Covid-19 leaves many survivors with long term organ damage. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #3
This!👆 SheltieLover Apr 2020 #17
Additionally, many people who do recover Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2020 #37
And malaise Apr 2020 #4
I think that is the worst part about this disease. LuvNewcastle Apr 2020 #35
People are not obeying masks bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #5
Did they lick their finger to count their money? CaptYossarian Apr 2020 #8
I had one of those a month ago bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #12
I've seen clerks sticking a finger between where their teeth used to be. CaptYossarian Apr 2020 #15
Good advice, CaptY, thanks /nt bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #16
I'm in California. MoonchildCA Apr 2020 #9
grocery workers here in TN SheltieLover Apr 2020 #19
Yesterday I went out not fooled Apr 2020 #29
Regarding #2 - I thought it was a droplet spread virus. mwooldri Apr 2020 #10
Early March I had a sneezer in Walmart bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #14
It has a longer incubation and intubation. gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #18
do you have the link? thanks nt Javaman Apr 2020 #20
So far the only article by Dr Peter Tippett that... WePurrsevere Apr 2020 #21
K&R for truth! Moostache Apr 2020 #22
There are vaccines for flu strains and people have built up immunity over the years IronLionZion Apr 2020 #23
Specifically people over the age of 60. AtheistCrusader Apr 2020 #25
H1N1 got around in 1918. denem Apr 2020 #28
And in 2009. AtheistCrusader Apr 2020 #31
H2N2 pandemic was not limited to 1957. wnylib Apr 2020 #43
Your number 3 is wrong. Mariana Apr 2020 #24
Good catch, terms have meaning. It is ALSO more contagious. AtheistCrusader Apr 2020 #27
As is (in the OP) speaking of virus as having "species." StClone Apr 2020 #33
Thanks for posting. Here's another very good article by the same doctor.... KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2020 #26
On point 1: cab67 Apr 2020 #30
Thanks for the bolding. Is this all still correct? TreadSoftly Apr 2020 #32
Great post Babylonsjster. I almost always love and agree with your posts which are some of the most Pepsidog Apr 2020 #34
Kick orangecrush Apr 2020 #36
Check out this graphic I found on Weather.com. EWWWWW!!!!! flying_wahini Apr 2020 #38
I was hearing that A LOT in March, but not so much anymore. C Moon Apr 2020 #39
k&r Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #40
K&R Blue Owl Apr 2020 #41
Where did you get this list? I would love for my local newspaper to print this. jimmyzvoice Apr 2020 #42
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