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Celerity

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Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:04 AM Apr 2020

People Are Finally Starting to See the Real Ellen DeGeneres and It Isn't Pretty [View all]

Replacing her own crew with non-union workers during the pandemic underscores how the talk show host’s cheery TV persona is miles away from who she is behind closed doors.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/people-are-finally-starting-to-see-the-real-ellen-degeneres-and-it-isnt-pretty

As America’s pre-eminent lesbian daytime talk-show host, Ellen DeGeneres has attained a somewhat unlikely arena of ubiquity in mainstream entertainment culture. But in the past year, there is evidence emerging that the tinge of mean-spiritedness that comes through in DeGeneres’ interviews and segments on The Ellen DeGeneres Show are consistent with a rumored behind-the-scenes demeanor. And now it’s not just a give-zero-fucks Dakota Johnson who is coming through with tales of the daytime media queen—it’s the workers. DeGeneres’ comedy and sitcom career famously came to a halt when, in 1997, she used an episode of her show, Ellen, to come out. Even Laura Dern, who played her love interest in the episode, reportedly couldn’t get a job for years afterward. Of course, both women have since seen comebacks that have catapulted them to stardom and riches, but Ellen has more recently received a kind of countercultural check.

Outside of her daytime audience and the celebrities she cavorts with, it appears that a good number of regular people—including several of the people who have worked for her and served her in other ways—reportedly find her to be reliably cruel. There have been rumor mills in the comedy and TV worlds about DeGeneres’ meanness for years. Late last month, a Twitter thread by comedian and podcast host Kevin T. Porter brought many out with first-, second-, and thirdhand stories about DeGeneres’ various transgressions, from refusing to make eye contact with interns to getting a waitress fired for having a chipped nail, and more. Almost none of these stories have been shared or confirmed by anyone still in the industry, but in 2014, former Ellen head writer Karen Kilgariff did share with Marc Maron that she was fired from the show after refusing to cross the picket line during the 2008 writers’ strike. DeGeneres has allegedly not spoken to Kilgariff since.

Earlier this year, DeGeneres came under fire for more public-facing actions. After photos came out of her laughing it up at a Dallas Cowboys game with former U.S. President George W. Bush, fans and critics expressed anger that the host would get chummy with the head cheerleader of the Iraq War (and a vehement opponent to gay marriage). DeGeneres dismissed the criticism by saying that liberals and conservatives should be able to reach across the aisle to be friends.

But more recently, it’s become clear that DeGeneres doesn’t quite extend that self-styled grace toward those who cannot escape by virtue of being the head of it: the incarcerated. Performing a monologue from her multimillion-dollar Beverly Hills home during the California coronavirus lockdown, DeGeneres cracked that being self-isolated “is like being in jail. It’s mostly because I’ve been wearing the same clothes for 10 days and everyone here is gay.” Once again, viewers were incensed, and pointed out the obvious incongruity of the “joke”: As DeGeneres lounges in her enormous home, filming the show she earns $70 million a year to host, prisoners are being packed like sardines without any protective equipment as the virus spreads from guards to them, and even suffering beatings from some of those guards for daring to seek medical treatment.

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Look. That's the problem with putting public figures on pedestals jimfields33 Apr 2020 #1
Yeah Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #6
Absolutely. Me too. jimfields33 Apr 2020 #8
I have had to learn to do that through the years. Jamastiene Apr 2020 #32
Dory is no longer on my list of favorite people. Ferrets are Cool Apr 2020 #2
I don't watch her, but I also don't read tabloid hit jobs. Hortensis Apr 2020 #3
Just this morning I said "My Dad keeps his cell neater than mine" Iggo Apr 2020 #12
:) Responses suggest the pack mood here is very different. Hortensis Apr 2020 #17
Damnit. Maru Kitteh Apr 2020 #25
Sorry, I did it to myself also. Doughnut NOW! nt Hortensis Apr 2020 #31
Those are Christmas donuts - probably stale by now. Totally Tunsie Apr 2020 #53
Lol, but sprinkles! A pair of grandsons have been doing a bunch Hortensis Apr 2020 #54
Everything's better with sprinkles! Totally Tunsie Apr 2020 #55
The previously unartistic littler one turns out to be going Hortensis Apr 2020 #58
Baking in particular is great for science & math. When my oldest grandson was still quite young... Hekate Apr 2020 #78
:) Wistfully. Yes, here too. Hortensis Apr 2020 #79
The being-in-jail joke is kinda funny, and not edgy at all. If everyone is going to BusyBeingBest Apr 2020 #4
It alludes to scummy jail rape "jokes" that are not permitted on DU, plus "above the peons" tudes.nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #20
Tasteless, sure, but I've heard a lot worse. Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #26
It would be different if she wasn't also gay--she live love laugh Apr 2020 #77
Lots of celebs are full of themselves and treat the "hired help" poorly. stopbush Apr 2020 #5
Now do "Why We Don't See Brendan Fraser Anymore." Iggo Apr 2020 #7
She's had a hidden reputation for years. liberalmuse Apr 2020 #9
could be. and frankly she doesn't matter to me stopdiggin Apr 2020 #52
Pretty harmless joke about being in jail methinks jcgoldie Apr 2020 #10
Um, "getting a waitress fired for a chipped nail" GusBob Apr 2020 #29
Never been a fan. roamer65 Apr 2020 #11
She is a human being. n/t Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #13
Well, maybe. But sometimes her human suit makes her itchy. GoneOffShore Apr 2020 #60
"refuses to make eye contact with interns" Raine Apr 2020 #14
Kind of like Meg Ryan hiding on the floor of her limo, so that the 'extras' couldn't see her. GoneOffShore Apr 2020 #38
Due to my mild Asperger's... mbusby Apr 2020 #43
I'm extremely shy and often find it hard Raine Apr 2020 #65
I think it's so telling to call her a Lesbian Talk Show Host LakeArenal Apr 2020 #15
I agree that her sexual orientation is not even important. Jamastiene Apr 2020 #27
I caught the "lesbian talk show host" comment as well. Not necessary at all for the article. hadEnuf Apr 2020 #44
Its ridiculous how your orientation or color HAS to be mentioned in stories. oldsoftie Apr 2020 #47
Unless you're the default color. Iggo Apr 2020 #67
Wow, that article seems really petty and desperate to me. Goodheart Apr 2020 #16
Quite the Hit-Piece on Ellen. MineralMan Apr 2020 #18
The link in the piece to the Variety article bolsters what the author is saying. GoneOffShore Apr 2020 #37
It's really irrelevant to me. I don't watch the show. MineralMan Apr 2020 #39
I reckon sometimes some folks need to be "hit". nt oldsoftie Apr 2020 #49
Bingo. Thank you. GoneOffShore Apr 2020 #61
She's toast. A HERETIC I AM Apr 2020 #19
No worries rusty fender Apr 2020 #40
And your point is? GoneOffShore Apr 2020 #62
My point rusty fender Apr 2020 #72
You never know. That net worth figure may or may not be leveraged to the hilt. A HERETIC I AM Apr 2020 #73
I agree with you rusty fender Apr 2020 #75
She has been well-known in the industry for many, many years as an awful person. RedSpartan Apr 2020 #21
This - I responded below JustAnotherGen Apr 2020 #23
I dont get it. Which happens a lot oldsoftie Apr 2020 #70
Well known in the entertainment JustAnotherGen Apr 2020 #22
Lumping her in with convicted rapist Weinstein? Give me an effing break redstateblues Apr 2020 #28
Just the nastiest of the nastiest JustAnotherGen Apr 2020 #41
Jeezus frigging cripes. Goodheart Apr 2020 #34
Crippety crippety h-e-double-flippin hockey sticks kcr Apr 2020 #74
Since seeing her yuck it up with Bush.... Jamastiene Apr 2020 #24
Her defense of Kevin Hart's ugly homophobic jokes was the last straw for me. cwydro Apr 2020 #33
People with a net worth of a half billion dollars usually are. AtheistCrusader Apr 2020 #50
Michelle Obama yucked it up with Bush, too Wednesdays Apr 2020 #80
Not buying it ibegurpard Apr 2020 #30
Meh MenloParque Apr 2020 #35
Never bought what she was selling. Same with the oleaginous Ophrah. GoneOffShore Apr 2020 #36
She's no different from Sean Hannity, rusty fender Apr 2020 #42
Who cares? ashredux Apr 2020 #45
you apparently Celerity Apr 2020 #48
Although I have always felt she was Karma13612 Apr 2020 #46
Her whole "coming out" was a joke anyway. Who DIDNT know she was gay to begin with. oldsoftie Apr 2020 #51
You should rethink this premise jcgoldie Apr 2020 #64
And everyone has an opinion oldsoftie Apr 2020 #69
Very mean spirited piece. Mosby Apr 2020 #56
I agree n/t Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #57
tell that to the union workers she sacked and replaced with scabs Celerity Apr 2020 #59
That's the part that bothers me. crickets Apr 2020 #71
good thing the obamas never palled around with W in photos.... msongs Apr 2020 #63
Oh brother. This is being propagated by disgruntled laid off employees. n/t KWR65 Apr 2020 #66
Why are we periodically bombarded by pieces questioning Ellen DeGeneres' character every few months? Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2020 #68
Laura Dern hasn't had a gap in her career since she was 16 n/t TexasBushwhacker Apr 2020 #76
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