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TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 06:45 AM Sep 2012

Sanity Check: Student-to-teacher ratios and class sizes [View all]

As we regard the Chicago strike and regard the state of public education in this nation today, the most prominent issue continues to be student-to-teacher ratios and class sizes.

One of the repeated "issues" parroted by newsreaders in the media regarding the "hardship" on parents in the Chicago school district is the difficulty supervising the students who're not attending school. For many, it seems that "day care" is their major concern.

As a former teacher, I'd actually regard the standards imposed on day care providers (and the pay for baby-sitters) as a benchmark for progress in public education. While I don't speak for either teachers OR parents, it's worthwhile, I believe, to think about the laws across this nation that day care providers must meet.

The largest group size allowed is 16 children. The highest staff-to-child ratio allowed is 8:1.

When our public school administrators shrug at class sizes of over 40 children and student-to-teacher ratios of 25:1 ... it seems clear to me where the utter insanity lies.


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but, don't you know, bill gates did *research* and he found out that CLASS SIZE DOESN'T MATTER! HiPointDem Sep 2012 #1
wow i've never thought about it that way. ejpoeta Sep 2012 #2
Exactly. And the size and ratios I cited are for school-aged children (4-6 yo). TahitiNut Sep 2012 #9
i see your point, but that is apples to oranges. mopinko Sep 2012 #3
Nonsense. TahitiNut Sep 2012 #10
you really think 2 year olds and 10 year olds need the same ratio? mopinko Sep 2012 #13
And just WHERE did you find THAT strawman?? TahitiNut Sep 2012 #14
you didn't say that in your op. mopinko Sep 2012 #18
Project star d_r Sep 2012 #4
I used to teach TrogL Sep 2012 #5
You should make that an OP.. Fumesucker Sep 2012 #6
I don't like the use of the term sociopath here, but you certainly have a percentage of kids gollygee Sep 2012 #11
I'm talking about the sociopathic bullies punching kids when your back is turned TrogL Sep 2012 #20
. n/t porphyrian Sep 2012 #7
K&R This fantasy is de rigueur in the corporate school advocates circles. n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #8
I say DO THE MATH!!! 30 kids means 2 minutes per kid per hour. That is 14 mins a day DonRedwood Sep 2012 #12
Kids in day care haven't learned discipline yet and that is what necessitates small class sizes. dkf Sep 2012 #15
Is there a sale on broad brushes that I haven't heard about?? TahitiNut Sep 2012 #16
So why do Asian countries do well with class sizes over 30? dkf Sep 2012 #17
Asian parents respect their teachers and train their kids to do so too. Auntie Bush Sep 2012 #19
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