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24. Fintan O'Toole is wrong on one count

Sat Apr 25, 2020, 03:49 PM

Apr 2020

Yes DJT is grotesque. Yes the sickness in the USA that pushed him to the highest office in the land is grotesque.

But he is wrong that DJT destroyed this country. He is a mere symptom of that sickness. A very damaging side effect ... but he is not the cause.

Yes it will get worse before it gets better. It will not be pretty ... but the best of American ideals will step forward again. When it is all said and done, believe in people.

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The world has loved, hated and envied the US, Now, for the first time, we pity it [View all] kpete Apr 2020 OP

Two words:..... FOX "NEWS" .....n/t BComplex Apr 2020 #1

Rupert Murdoch should be arrested and executed for treason. roamer65 Apr 2020 #3

He has created a war against sanity, and should be tried for war crimes? BComplex Apr 2020 #5

Like Rash Limburger their absence would grace us greatly. roamer65 Apr 2020 #8

Like dRumph, he left the managing of his de$tructive propaganda machine... Lock him up. Apr 2020 #42

Faux PLUS Republican owned talk radio and MSM. nt live love laugh Apr 2020 #18

Yep. They've set up the cult mentality for many years, and the nazi wannabe's BComplex Apr 2020 #44

Awww.. whathehell Apr 2020 #2

I don't know how much you travel, but I've done quite a bit of it. cwydro Apr 2020 #7

Um, me too whathehell Apr 2020 #9

Nor are we universally considered nice people. Lonestarblue Apr 2020 #39

We are hearing this from more than one source. Also, we have DUers in other countries... Hekate Apr 2020 #10

Yep. cwydro Apr 2020 #11

UK really? Who did they vote for in a landslide again? jimfields33 Apr 2020 #13

And they still think Trump is a raging maniac. so what does that tell you? a la izquierda Apr 2020 #19

Exactly this... Soph0571 Apr 2020 #50

I don't have any Brexit friends or relatives. cwydro Apr 2020 #31

Boris isn't the best by any means... paleotn Apr 2020 #36

I'm sure.. whathehell Apr 2020 #14

Meh, it was a good run. Dagstead Bumwood Apr 2020 #4

Worthwhile read. Good to learn about Fintan O'Toole at link below since he was new to me. MFGsunny Apr 2020 #6

2014, I remember reading a discussion here between 2 Brits on appalachiablue Apr 2020 #12

Some are wondering how long it will whathehell Apr 2020 #15

Looks like Merry Olde England could be flying solo, again appalachiablue Apr 2020 #16

I'm resigning my university position here in the US.. a la izquierda Apr 2020 #20

That's nice.. whathehell Apr 2020 #23

I've never felt home here in 7 years a la izquierda Apr 2020 #48

I doubt I'd feel at home whathehell Apr 2020 #51

Oh, I see by another post of yours that you're from Jersey whathehell Apr 2020 #54

Enjoy the change & your partner, Colchester is a decent location appalachiablue Apr 2020 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue Apr 2020 #27

Colchester, Essex a la izquierda Apr 2020 #45

Well, Essex is the New Jersey of England muriel_volestrangler Apr 2020 #61

Oh god TOWIE a la izquierda Apr 2020 #62

Um, no, Illinois is also "safe'. whathehell Apr 2020 #46

Um, you think the Nov. election will stall the rw course the country appalachiablue Apr 2020 #57

Um, I think it will help whathehell Apr 2020 #60

I've got news for you anamnua Apr 2020 #25

Relax: I was thinking of posts here about Ireland possibly appalachiablue Apr 2020 #30

That may be the case whathehell Apr 2020 #53

Ah, you've got a great "American" attitude. cwydro Apr 2020 #32

Lol..It's not limited to Americans, actually whathehell Apr 2020 #40

Didn't take long to lose their empire paleotn Apr 2020 #37

No, but whathehell Apr 2020 #41

I was embarrased to be American during the GeeDumb Bush years; now I'm am beyond fking horrified! OMGWTF Apr 2020 #17

They won't be laughing at America when I'm President. gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #21

We were the bright shining light on a hill, now we've sunk into black hole. rickyhall Apr 2020 #22

This too shall pass.. whathehell Apr 2020 #26

True. Karma is catching up to the Fascists again. rickyhall Apr 2020 #28

Yes.. whathehell Apr 2020 #29

Fintan O'Toole is wrong on one count KentuckyWoman Apr 2020 #24

Given that a vaccine for covid has been delevoped ,,,,, Cryptoad Apr 2020 #33

Sweden has adopted a different strategy to combat the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Lock him up. Apr 2020 #47

It's not yet approved -- It's stll in the testing stage.. whathehell Apr 2020 #49

When and IF,,, Cryptoad Apr 2020 #56

America has always been based on a mythology Politicub Apr 2020 #34

Show me a country that isn't.. whathehell Apr 2020 #43

That's a good point. I don't know if other countries are so hung up on their origin stories. Politicub Apr 2020 #59

Grotesque Spectacle EleanorR Apr 2020 #35

Yep. That about sums it up. paleotn Apr 2020 #38

"Will American prestige ever recover..." BobTheSubgenius Apr 2020 #52

We were respected? Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2020 #55