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The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 04:22 PM Apr 2020

Believing Trump, Moore, And Kavanaugh Guilty Does Not Require Believing Mr. Biden Is [View all]

Finding a charge made by one person to be credible does not require me to consider a charge made by some other person to be credible. Charges of criminal behavior should be assessed individually, and the credibility of the person making the charge, as well as the credibility of the charge itself, must be weighed.

Some claim falsely it does, that because some span of time elapsed between the acts alleged and the woman's reporting of same, all should be viewed as identical. It is true that persons subjected to sexual assault sometimes take their time to come forward. It is also true people will often wait to launch a lie till the time seems right.

In the case of charges against Trump, Moore, and Kavanaugh, the persons laying the accusations are solid and credible, as are the accusations they make. They are not solitary accusers, in each instance there were multiple people coming forward. In each instance the accusations were consistent with known behavior, from the well documented media circus of 'Trump, the playboy', to what everyone knows is common behavior at beer-bash jock parties of the sort Kavanaugh himself documented attending, to the foul odor of pious fraud Moore has always reeked of, in his extreme denunciation of perversion in others. which so often betrays a guilty secret trying to break out in confession.

Reade has not just altered her claims over recent years, but has made them more extreme as each version failed to excite much attention. That is not a pattern of a truthful person, coming forward after a lapse of years, but the pattern of a calculating liar who is seeking to find what level of charge it will take to win notoriety, and damage the target of the lie. Even more telling is that when Reade finally swore out a police complaint, she omitted to include the name of the person she accuses. If someone will not swear to a charge under penalty of perjury, there is no reason whatever to believe that person making the charge when not under oath. Note that none of this makes reference to the well-evidenced flakiness of Reade, which opens the possibility she is simply a fabulist, or to her adherence to Putin and Russia, or to the obvious axes to grind which every person promoting her story has. These are, however, things which damage her credibility further.

It should be noted, too, that hypocrisy is dead as a charge of any weight in political life. No one is, and no one ought to be, deterred by a charge of hypocrisy from pressing the line best suited to the political needs of the present day. Well-meaning, good-hearted people who tend to the left need to learn not to allow their better natures to be taken advantage of by vicious scum on the right, and splinterest wreckers on the far left, who enlist them in their charges against figures of the center left, by exhorting them to 'be consistent' and telling them 'don't be hypocrites'. The proper response to attempts at this is a hearty "Fuck off! Nobody cares what a rancid piece of dogshit like you thinks!" Or words to that effect....

Only attack the enemy, the christo-fascist right.

Never, ever, attack people who are on your side.


If you want one quick reason why the right wing wields power well out of proportion to the popularity of its policies, it is that they adhere to this rule, and we on the left do not.


"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."

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Thank you - a voice of wisdom! Skya Rhen Apr 2020 #1
K&R. Mr. Magistrate. Sir. yonder Apr 2020 #2
Beautifully stated. mzmolly Apr 2020 #3
So you feel that Reade is tailoring her account for the media? guillaumeb Apr 2020 #4
Absolutely I Do, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #5
Agree. ancianita Apr 2020 #10
Indeed, Ma'am, That Report Is Devastating The Magistrate Apr 2020 #12
Well said sir as always. K&R Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #6
Yes, totally false equivalence of Kavanaugh and Biden for Hortensis Apr 2020 #7
It Is True, Ma'am, Reade's Background Is Far From Stable Or Savory The Magistrate Apr 2020 #19
Re: "the foul odor of pious fraud" SouthernAtheist Apr 2020 #26
The Play Is Against Out Better Natures, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #42
unfortunately, what really counts is whose got the 1500 coordinated radio stations certainot Apr 2020 #41
Well, that was power all right, Certainot. They keep losing Hortensis Apr 2020 #43
i think it would be better to destroy the rw radio monopoly instead of just certainot Apr 2020 #53
Yes, but we haven't ignored. You and I agree fully on Hortensis Apr 2020 #58
the other media are part of the free speech spectrum - talk radio is getting a free speech free certainot Apr 2020 #63
Boy, I hope you're right! I was outraged when Radio Moscow Hortensis Apr 2020 #65
i just think issue like taxes are so polluted with disinformation we could do a lot more certainot Apr 2020 #66
Not among political professionals. Corruption of understanding among Hortensis Apr 2020 #67
every issue is about 15 pts to the right of where it would be without their talk radio messaging certainot Apr 2020 #69
:) Damned stupid Democratic leaders. Reality is, peoples go through waves Hortensis Apr 2020 #70
Not among political professionals. Corruption of understanding among Hortensis Apr 2020 #68
100%. nt oasis Apr 2020 #8
K&R musette_sf Apr 2020 #9
Excellent post - K&R for that and the discussion. crickets Apr 2020 #11
Email server, ergo, ipso facto, bullfrogs and lemonade! Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2020 #13
I'm so glad you made this an OP mcar Apr 2020 #14
Exactly! Heard and considered treestar Apr 2020 #49
Exactly, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #50
As you stated, the other accusers had credibility mcar Apr 2020 #52
I knew she was a liar when... Happy Hoosier Apr 2020 #15
outstanding post, especially the last sentence... dhill926 Apr 2020 #16
Thank you, Magistrate! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #17
This is the fight. warmfeet Apr 2020 #18
True, Sir --- This One Is For All the Marbles The Magistrate Apr 2020 #51
K & R. nt iluvtennis Apr 2020 #20
Al Franken is no longer a Senator.. mountain grammy Apr 2020 #21
I Hope, Ma'am, Mr. Franken Is The Last Martyr The Magistrate Apr 2020 #25
I hope so too.. mountain grammy Apr 2020 #31
K&R betsuni Apr 2020 #22
I like your line "Never, ever, attack people who are on your side:." I agree this is one big c-rational Apr 2020 #23
That is actually the only line here that I did not agree with Tom Rinaldo Apr 2020 #29
Sometimes, My Friend, Nuance Must Go By The Board The Magistrate Apr 2020 #32
Indeed. Which is why I proudly gave a Rec to this excellent OP. Tom Rinaldo Apr 2020 #34
Thank You, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #36
Disheartening rantormusing Apr 2020 #24
Do, Please, Point Out The Contradictions, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #27
Do please stop being violent rantormusing Apr 2020 #30
Oh My! Thank You For The Laugh, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #35
Congratulations rantormusing Apr 2020 #37
Do Please Keep That Comedy Gold Coming, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #39
sleeper trof Apr 2020 #38
Violent? HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #40
Ooo, both violent & passive-aggressive. Good trick. Hekate Apr 2020 #45
I Am Legion, Ma'am, I Contain Multitudes The Magistrate Apr 2020 #47
Indeed you do! Hekate Apr 2020 #48
Your interpretation of the OP is way out of line. BlueLucy Apr 2020 #54
But It was Amusing, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #55
Just read your profile. Boomerproud Apr 2020 #71
My opinion: Right wing disruptors Kingofalldems Apr 2020 #28
Thank you playing the victim but not naming the suspect, Historic NY Apr 2020 #33
K&R Scurrilous Apr 2020 #44
Good OP and thread, Magistrate. Thank you, Sir. Hekate Apr 2020 #46
Thank you sir, may we have another? Blue Owl Apr 2020 #56
One Hopes, Sir, You Are Hoping For Me To Commence a Fresh Thread Soon.... The Magistrate Apr 2020 #59
Yes indeed... Blue Owl Apr 2020 #64
kick lamp_shade Apr 2020 #57
kick. nt Baltimike Apr 2020 #60
I completely agree with you, but if you didn't have the context here of defending Biden... Silent3 Apr 2020 #61
Anyone Trying, Sir, Would Get A Bad Case Of Indigestion With The First Bite The Magistrate Apr 2020 #62
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