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1StrongBlackMan

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4. Let me make the distinction through an anaology ...

Thu Sep 13, 2012, 03:26 PM

Sep 2012

At the end of American sporting events, football games, for example, for whatever reason, the fans (whether they won or lost) rush the field and tear down the goal posts. On the several occasions where someone died in the emotion-filled crush, the headlines don't read: "4 'murdered' (or 'killed') BY the crowd." That framing implies that the deaths were to purpose of the crowd rushing the field.

The purpose of the hijackers was to crush the planes into the towers to kill as many people as possible.

You may see this as splitting hairs ... I do not.

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Simplistic Question ... [View all] 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 OP

What are your feelings jdlh8894 Sep 2012 #1

Let me make the distinction through an anaology ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #4

Weren't the mortars jdlh8894 Sep 2012 #7

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #11

If the "hooligans" were protesting by murdering.... MNBrewer Sep 2012 #22

I think it would matter... kentuck Sep 2012 #2

Don't know what legal system they have but intent to kill treestar Sep 2012 #3

Quite correct ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #5

"inflamatory language"? I'm not watching TV on this so maybe I'm not seeing what you're seeing MNBrewer Sep 2012 #23

"Murdered" ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #27

Ok, well, i'm gonna go ahead here and disagree. MNBrewer Sep 2012 #28

Probably not treestar Sep 2012 #10

That's my point ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #14

...and there's also a lot of "inflaming" going on right here on DU. L0oniX Sep 2012 #6

"died from smoke inhalation" = "killed" Spider Jerusalem Sep 2012 #8

Again ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #12

Legal distinction there Spider Jerusalem Sep 2012 #15

Objection, Your Honor ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #18

Links? in order to put the facts in evidence? MNBrewer Sep 2012 #24

Simplistic Answer... brooklynite Sep 2012 #9

If someone sets fire to a crowded theater, are the people who die of smoke inhalation less dead MNBrewer Sep 2012 #13

One sets fire to a theater ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #16

What if setting the fire is part of the protest MNBrewer Sep 2012 #17

All reports ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #19

How do you propose to separate the supposedly legitimate protestors from those who MNBrewer Sep 2012 #21

That's true ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #25

So what's the utility in making the distinction ? MNBrewer Sep 2012 #26

If the facts are, as they appear to by ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #29

I think the breaching of our embassy/consulate walls is grounds enough for outrage MNBrewer Sep 2012 #30

Please give the family our condolences for his work. NotThisTime Sep 2012 #20

My first reaction yesterday Joe Shlabotnik Sep 2012 #31

I know ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #32