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In reply to the discussion: I am sorry, but the Reade story is changing and growing by the minute and I do not buy it [View all]Gothmog
(180,616 posts)57. Ths story has far too many holes and changes to be credible
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►People who contradict Reades claim. After the alleged assault, Reade said she complained about Biden's harassment to Marianne Baker, Bidens executive assistant, as well as to top aides Dennis Toner and Ted Kaufman. All three Biden staffers recently told The New York Times that she made no complaint to them.
And they did not offer the standard, noncommittal I dont remember any such complaint. The denials were firm. She did not come to me. If she had, I would have remembered her, Kaufman said. Toner made a similar statement. And from Baker: I never once witnessed, or heard of, or received, any reports of inappropriate conduct (by Biden), period." Baker said such a complaint, had Reade made it, "would have left a searing impression on me as a woman professional, and as a manager.
►Missing formal complaint. Reade told The Times she filed a written complaint against Biden with the Senate personnel office. But The Times could not find any complaint. When The Times asked Reade for a copy of the complaint, she said she did not have it. Yet she maintained and provided a copy of her 1993 Senate employment records.
It is odd that Reade kept a copy of her employment records but did not keep a copy of a complaint documenting criminal conduct by a man whose improprieties changed the trajectory of her life. Its equally odd The Times was unable to find a copy of the alleged Senate complaint.
►Memory lapse. Reade has said that she cannot remember the date, time or exact location of the alleged assault, except that it occurred in a semiprivate area in corridors connecting Senate buildings. After I left the Justice Department, I was appointed by the federal court in Los Angeles to represent indigent defendants. The first thing that comes to mind from my defense attorney perspective is that Reades amnesia about specifics makes it impossible for Biden to go through records and prove he could not have committed the assault, because he was somewhere else at the time.
For instance, if Reade alleged Biden assaulted her on the afternoon of June 3, 1993, Biden might be able to prove he was on the Senate floor or at the dentist. Her memory lapses could easily be perceived as bulletproofing a false allegation.
►The lie about losing her job. Reade told The Union that Biden wanted her to serve drinks at an event. After she refused, "she felt pushed out and left Biden's employ," the newspaper said last April. But Reade claimed this month in her Times interview that after she filed a sexual harassment complaint with the Senate personnel office, she faced retaliation and was fired by Bidens chief of staff.
Leaving a job after refusing to serve drinks at a Biden fundraiser is vastly different than being fired as retaliation for filing a sexual harassment complaint with the Senate. The disparity raises questions about Reades credibility and account of events.
►Compliments for Biden. In the 1990s, Biden worked to pass the Violence Against Women Act. In 2017, on multiple occasions, Reade retweeted or liked praise for Biden and his work combating sexual assault. In the same year, Reade tweeted other compliments of Biden, including: My old boss speaks truth. Listen. It is bizarre that Reade would publicly laud Biden for combating the very thing she would later accuse him of doing to her.
And they did not offer the standard, noncommittal I dont remember any such complaint. The denials were firm. She did not come to me. If she had, I would have remembered her, Kaufman said. Toner made a similar statement. And from Baker: I never once witnessed, or heard of, or received, any reports of inappropriate conduct (by Biden), period." Baker said such a complaint, had Reade made it, "would have left a searing impression on me as a woman professional, and as a manager.
►Missing formal complaint. Reade told The Times she filed a written complaint against Biden with the Senate personnel office. But The Times could not find any complaint. When The Times asked Reade for a copy of the complaint, she said she did not have it. Yet she maintained and provided a copy of her 1993 Senate employment records.
It is odd that Reade kept a copy of her employment records but did not keep a copy of a complaint documenting criminal conduct by a man whose improprieties changed the trajectory of her life. Its equally odd The Times was unable to find a copy of the alleged Senate complaint.
►Memory lapse. Reade has said that she cannot remember the date, time or exact location of the alleged assault, except that it occurred in a semiprivate area in corridors connecting Senate buildings. After I left the Justice Department, I was appointed by the federal court in Los Angeles to represent indigent defendants. The first thing that comes to mind from my defense attorney perspective is that Reades amnesia about specifics makes it impossible for Biden to go through records and prove he could not have committed the assault, because he was somewhere else at the time.
For instance, if Reade alleged Biden assaulted her on the afternoon of June 3, 1993, Biden might be able to prove he was on the Senate floor or at the dentist. Her memory lapses could easily be perceived as bulletproofing a false allegation.
►The lie about losing her job. Reade told The Union that Biden wanted her to serve drinks at an event. After she refused, "she felt pushed out and left Biden's employ," the newspaper said last April. But Reade claimed this month in her Times interview that after she filed a sexual harassment complaint with the Senate personnel office, she faced retaliation and was fired by Bidens chief of staff.
Leaving a job after refusing to serve drinks at a Biden fundraiser is vastly different than being fired as retaliation for filing a sexual harassment complaint with the Senate. The disparity raises questions about Reades credibility and account of events.
►Compliments for Biden. In the 1990s, Biden worked to pass the Violence Against Women Act. In 2017, on multiple occasions, Reade retweeted or liked praise for Biden and his work combating sexual assault. In the same year, Reade tweeted other compliments of Biden, including: My old boss speaks truth. Listen. It is bizarre that Reade would publicly laud Biden for combating the very thing she would later accuse him of doing to her.
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I am sorry, but the Reade story is changing and growing by the minute and I do not buy it [View all]
Peacetrain
Apr 2020
OP
That is exactly what I have been saying. My story has not changed in 40 years!
Maraya1969
Apr 2020
#3
Your story may not have changed as you've told it to others over the years.
WhiskeyGrinder
Apr 2020
#14
Pushing fingers into a genital area is a pretty common consensual activity as well as a not
WhiskeyGrinder
Apr 2020
#16
No, I'm just making the point that her story was one thing until it was another, which is not
WhiskeyGrinder
Apr 2020
#22
Could it be possible that she read her father's book, and picked up storylines from it ?
OnDoutside
Apr 2020
#51
Lets get real here...most are promoting the story in the hopes that somehow it will hurt Biden
Demsrule86
Apr 2020
#27
And many are are embracing rhetoric that hurts all victims in an effort to support Biden.
WhiskeyGrinder
Apr 2020
#33
You really think a woman would say a man who raped her is good on Violence against Women? Do you
Demsrule86
Apr 2020
#26
I am the victim of assault and remember every detail. My story has never changed...that is what
Demsrule86
Apr 2020
#23
Honestly, is there anyone here that really thinks this accusation against Biden
hadEnuf
Apr 2020
#47