If we're not supposed to condemn the jerks that made the anti-islam movie

[nadinbrzezinski]

180. I will answer this

Riot, you need to be there physically, goes back to the labor battles of the late 19th century, and has been used in a few cases against peddlers of hate when there was an actual riot and you could document their presence of those inciting there. The film makers were not there, let's forget the fact it wasn't the US, physically until they breached the compound. (And that is customary law)... why there are many reasons why all the sanctions they will probably face are not legal, but more like You Tube removing a channel, and facebook canceling an account. As private owners, they can do that, legally... under private property laws. Free speech don't extend there, since neither is a government entity. (And of course being in the FBI we keep an eye on you shit list, which again they can do that. Now the IRS doing an audit, god help the IRS if they can prove this was in retaliation for all this... they can't do that)

Nowhere in this there is slander involved... and slandering gods is not contemplated in US law anywhere.

Fire in a crowded theater was actually used by Justice Brennan back in the day... way back in the day... as a figure of speech of a situation where injury and death could be caused due to panic. Why the story of a kid asking him about an actual fire at an actual theater is kind of funny and cute. No, the world is not a theater... but apparently figures of speech are well above the capacity of modern day Americans to comprehend... I am sorry.

And this is not about the global war on free speech, it is the apparent ignorance of many folks to the actual limits on Freedom of Speech. It is not absolute, and has not been absolute from the beginning. The first limits actually came in the form of slander laws, and had something to do with the use of newspapers during the the 1797 mess, during the Adams administration... which for reference was the first test, real test, to this country.

You think we have personal attacks on pols and private citizens these days? Oh we don't, we really don't...

Now what can happen... is that (and it would be a hard case to make) the families of the dead State Department workers take these people to court, civil court, for wrongful death... it would be an extremely hard to make, but it might happen.