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PatrickforO

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37. This is a really good post, Randy. Two points:

Thu May 7, 2020, 11:27 PM

May 2020

1. Universal basic income is a really good idea. Yang wasn't the first. It goes clear back to revolutionary France, but Thomas Paine and Thomas Spence advocated a welfare system that guaranteed everyone a basic income. This is such a great idea, and it might just help the Dems win, because this end stage capitalism has created a system that isn't set up for our benefit. At all. A universal basic income would go SO FAR toward restoring everyone's human dignity, it wouldn't even be funny.

2. As to Jeffries, I agree with him too, but we should include the release of all the people illegally held by the Trump administration in the private for-profit concentration camps just because they came here seeking asylum while at the same time being people of color.

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Pelosi endorses $2,000/month universal basic income. [View all] RandySF May 2020 OP

Excellent. Pay for itself in a year. No "trickle-down" supposed benefits from the raygun nuts. erronis May 2020 #1

For now it'd be temporary during the pandemic, but yes. Hortensis May 2020 #55

Yes! This is the sort of common sense plan our country needs RainCaster May 2020 #2

I like Maxine Waters' plan SheltieLover May 2020 #4

Nancy's has loopholes? Control-Z May 2020 #33

K&R! 2naSalit May 2020 #3

I think it's this or massive riots when unemployment runs out. roamer65 May 2020 #5

Agreed. sarcasmo May 2020 #6

Will the $2000 be paid for by increasing taxes on the rich? at140 May 2020 #7

Pressure is growing for negative interest rates. roamer65 May 2020 #8

That's true jimfields33 May 2020 #10

Since the debt is so large, high interest rates will only happen in a currency crisis. roamer65 May 2020 #11

+1 sandensea May 2020 #32

Not quite, I own T-bonds 10 years ago on which the gov't is obligated to pay the stipulated interest at140 May 2020 #23

Dang. Very complicated jimfields33 May 2020 #25

Yes, debt is usually a losing proposition, I prefer increasing taxes on those who at140 May 2020 #27

60 pct tax on the rich. roamer65 May 2020 #12

Oh, but they're the job creators!!! Yavin4 May 2020 #14

Not all rich people's income goes towards creating jobs at140 May 2020 #26

Yes, and the rich person dives through that money in a giant vault like Scrooge McDuck hughee99 May 2020 #36

A rich person doesn't build a building wryter2000 May 2020 #58

Jobs for robots! Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #42

Start w/70% tax rate, but give tax breaks for actual jobs created Bucky May 2020 #64

Agreed for drastic increase on incomes over $1 million/year at140 May 2020 #24

So what? stopbush May 2020 #20

How about we just stop building aircraft carriers? Mr.Bill May 2020 #74

Watch Canada for doing this same program. Wellstone ruled May 2020 #9

"wary of the impact on deficit spending" Absolutely Hilarious! bucolic_frolic May 2020 #13

+1 c-rational May 2020 #17

If "printer go brrrr" for the military and the megacorporations Grokenstein May 2020 #19

Do Something About Rent erpowers May 2020 #15

Wouldn't the $1,000-2,000 a month pay the rent? forthemiddle May 2020 #50

In some locations, it might pay for the bedroom closet. Pacifist Patriot May 2020 #51

$1500 for a very small one-bedroom obamanut2012 May 2020 #60

$1643 per month for a small apt in a 1961 building More_Cowbell May 2020 #68

My son pays 1200/mo in San Antonio for a two bd/ba. He has a roommate. SammyWinstonJack May 2020 #53

Pay For Other Things erpowers May 2020 #57

Fiscal hawks have a problem? Just roll back all those tax cuts for billioniares! BamaRefugee May 2020 #16

⬆️ This, right here ⬆️ JudyM May 2020 #75

let's see if it happens. jorgevlorgan May 2020 #18

A great idea that will directly help millions, prop up the economy stopbush May 2020 #21

That right there is the policy of the Democratic Party. It is the General Election win point. ancianita May 2020 #22

Exactly. As soon as the Republicans say no, it becomes Biden's winning platform. (n/t) thesquanderer May 2020 #72

How to pay for it? Repeal every last tax cut for the wealthy, and tax the hell out of them. onecaliberal May 2020 #28

Madam speaker also said in her statement the next package must include help for the USPS Thekaspervote May 2020 #29

:) Yes. nt Hortensis May 2020 #54

And I hope support for 100% mail-in voting. That will be a game changer! OMGWTF May 2020 #73

"... concerns from moderate members and fiscal hawks ...." area51 May 2020 #30

I know! It's like when Senator Collins says she's "concerned" lunatica May 2020 #45

Great move! JoeOtterbein May 2020 #31

GOOD TO SEE THIS. riversedge May 2020 #34

Omar's Rent and Mortgage Cancellation Act should get some more traction IronLionZion May 2020 #35

This is a really good post, Randy. Two points: PatrickforO May 2020 #37

Nah Ollie Garkie May 2020 #38

We can still push him to act on it. RandySF May 2020 #43

if we don't do things like this KayF May 2020 #49

It should have been done at the Start with a National Shut Down JI7 May 2020 #39

Agreed MoonlitKnight May 2020 #48

Well JmAln May 2020 #52

When People Recoil In Horror Over The Very THOUGHT Of This Idea.......... ChoppinBroccoli May 2020 #40

A basic income even post-CV19 is a good idea for capitalism PufPuf23 May 2020 #41

GREAT!! Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #44

Of course this can't happen durablend May 2020 #65

I would add something to the bill DFW May 2020 #46

THIS Jamastiene May 2020 #62

I live on 1000 a month, for me this would be amazing Marrah_Goodman May 2020 #47

Kudos to our Speaker hangaleft May 2020 #56

This will be a winning campaign issue. SoonerPride May 2020 #59

That money comes from us in the first place. Jamastiene May 2020 #61

Don't know about you, but my spouse and I don't pay $48k in taxes every year. MichMan May 2020 #76

Somewhere up in heaven, Andrew Yang is smiling down on us Bucky May 2020 #63

Good. Many people can't pay rent Dandelyon May 2020 #66

I would feel slightly guilty about taking that money, PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #67

That's what I did, donated to two food banks More_Cowbell May 2020 #69

I did that with my stimulus check. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #70

There are lots of very worthwhile charities out there. Mariana May 2020 #77

Thank you for that information, PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #78

I'm glad she's floatin' it out there.... Upthevibe May 2020 #71