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mick063

(2,424 posts)
54. I'm rather uncomfortable with discussing religion
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 04:52 AM
Sep 2012

It is of very great importance to many, many people and I don't wish to insult them by disputing what they deeply believe. It is their right to pursue happiness and if that includes religion, than their happiness translates to collective happiness.

People should absolutely believe in anything that can help them coexist in a peaceful and prosperous manner. Most religions have a common theme of goodwill and it is good that people seek the best of virtues.

But there is the dark side of religion and it has probably been in place from the very first days of worship. The side where men use religion as a means to attain power and impose their will on other men. As I do not wish to impose on people of such sacred beliefs, I only ask that they do not impose those beliefs on me.

Unfortunately, this is what happens when religion co-mingles with politics. It is when people impose their will on me that I begin to despise religion. But this isn't confined to just religion. This is a natural response toward people that would impose their will on me for any reason.

When people use religion to dictate my life, I will openly oppose that particular religion. The religions I find most appealing are those that do not do this.

I will respect people that display consistently good virtue as I cast personal judgment on each person as an individual. Their religion has very little to do with that judgment. In other words, I believe I can peacefully coexist with any person of good moral fiber regardless of their religous beliefs. For me, the bottom line is in how they interact with others. This reveals their character more than any religion could.

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I hear you... Blue Belle Sep 2012 #1
That's a good one!!! left on green only Sep 2012 #44
It's all guilt by assocation with RWers. Facts won't sway them. CJCRANE Sep 2012 #2
Better tell the Mormons... kirby Sep 2012 #3
THAT is an argument people are having? RepublicansRZombies Sep 2012 #4
Facts don't affect them. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2012 #5
I sure as heck did Siwsan Sep 2012 #6
I never "took" to religion Caretha Sep 2012 #46
Oh? Is that because religion is genetic, like skin color?? How do we then have free will?? kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #7
The first Christians all likely had parents that were either Jewish or followers of Roman paganism.. phleshdef Sep 2012 #8
Well, unless you're Irish Catholic Warpy Sep 2012 #9
I'm sure that the person posting this was an animist Renew Deal Sep 2012 #10
does that also apply to all our ancestors, ever? eShirl Sep 2012 #11
Oh yeah? Iggo Sep 2012 #12
arguing with religious nuts? you might as well argue with a sack of rocks nt MariaM83 Sep 2012 #13
This atheist Buddhist had Catholic parents. It was not difficult at all. nt Speck Tater Sep 2012 #14
it's probably in reference to apostasy NuttyFluffers Sep 2012 #15
Yes, because freedom of religion in Amurica means free to worship exactly like your parents do. progressoid Sep 2012 #16
I went to a private non religious college and knew several converts Nikia Sep 2012 #17
Silliness. I was raised nominally Lutheran hifiguy Sep 2012 #18
Huh, too bad I didn't know that when I rejected the religion of my parents forty years ago... kas125 Sep 2012 #19
Generations of my ancestors (including parents) = Baptist Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #20
How do these people think the Apostles came about?? MNBrewer Sep 2012 #21
Its difficult to reject your parents religion but of course its possible. DCBob Sep 2012 #22
Oh, so these folks aren't evangelical after all gollygee Sep 2012 #23
Easy response - if true, why are there Christian missionaries? karynnj Sep 2012 #24
What I have found is true: discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #34
Funny.. malokvale77 Sep 2012 #41
The bloodline/genetics argument is an insult to freedom of the mind everywhere. freshwest Sep 2012 #25
They say religon, but what they really mean is "Obama is a Nig... Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #26
Why not? Jesus did. elehhhhna Sep 2012 #27
How do you figure? N/T A HERETIC I AM Sep 2012 #31
what he taught was hardly standard jewish doctrine at the time elehhhhna Sep 2012 #33
LOL I have Marrah_G Sep 2012 #28
Same here Kath1 Sep 2012 #48
I am a 42 year old Wiccan Marrah_G Sep 2012 #49
Sounds like all is good, Marrah_G! Kath1 Sep 2012 #50
Thanks Kath :) Marrah_G Sep 2012 #51
Um. Isn't that what Abraham, the founder of monotheism, did? villager Sep 2012 #29
monotheism predates abraham by several thousand years madrchsod Sep 2012 #40
True -- but in terms of the origin stories Western monotheisms tell about about themselves... villager Sep 2012 #52
Out of the other side of their mouths, they admit Obama Sr. treestar Sep 2012 #30
They call him Barry Soetero because he was raised Muslim for a few years in Indonesia. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #56
Yep. Love the one where they figure Obama lost his US citizenship treestar Sep 2012 #58
re: "I had no choice in the matter to be a Catholic." discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #32
Response #1: So what if he is/was a Musilm? Ms. Toad Sep 2012 #35
I was baptized as an Episcopalian. RebelOne Sep 2012 #36
My story is very similar to yours..... left on green only Sep 2012 #43
Consider the source left on green only Sep 2012 #37
I sure as hell did. Zoeisright Sep 2012 #38
Yes, you can. My mother = Evangelical, Me? Agnostic... there you go. NotThisTime Sep 2012 #39
Any half-wit Christian knows that's EXACTLY what Jesus did! ancianita Sep 2012 #42
Well goats were slaughtered ... etherealtruth Sep 2012 #45
Whoever said that line is woefully ignorant sakabatou Sep 2012 #47
First of all Obama never has been a Muslim, so it's a false argument ... automatic loss for them Raine Sep 2012 #53
I'm rather uncomfortable with discussing religion mick063 Sep 2012 #54
So does he worship Wotan or some other pagan god? Presumably... JHB Sep 2012 #55
SRSLY ? eppur_se_muova Sep 2012 #57
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