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Moostache

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15. Nothing accidental about it at all...

Fri May 8, 2020, 12:12 PM

May 2020

Trump is focused on ONLY one thing...getting enough electoral college votes to secure a second term...notice he is NOT concerned with actually winning re-election, it is blatantly obvious by now that his support hovers between 40-45% and will not move off of that point.

He is using EVERYTHING he can to stack the decks and set the wheels in motion to allow just enough chicanery to be seen, but not so much that its obvious to the Fox News crowd too. Willful suspension of disbelief is necessary for people to enjoy movies or books or entertainment - they must be willing to accept certain premises or the experience is ruined...for example, Superhero stories only work if the audience is not thinking about the physics of Superman flying or Flash running through time...it is the exact same principle in play with Trump.

His facade is miles wide and fractions of a cm deep, but his fans and supporters DO NOT CARE...they simply accept what he says and do not question it. They are along for the ride and damn the consequences. This is even more obvious with the recent 'protesters' who want to 'reopen America' because that was Trump's wording..."damn the consequences, we want what our Tangerine Mussolini wants!"

Unless we figure out a way to pierce that willing suspension of disbelief - and we have not been successful with - TREASON, Foreign interference in elections, Extortion of another foreign leader, Nepotism, Cronyism, Incompetence, Racism, Sexual Assault or the out right cause of TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DEAD AMERICANS have not worked yet - unless that veil is pierced and Trump is seen by all how those who do not blindly worship him to feel better about themselves - the collective 'we', the United States is doomed.

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Does anyone else see these fighter jet "flyovers" as wasteful, meaningless, militaristic [View all] Atticus May 2020 OP

totally - money and effort that could be used for good rurallib May 2020 #1

Does the GOP inherit the military when democracy dies? jaxexpat May 2020 #49

They have to maintain flying hours and precision training. No air shows this year? Do this! SharonAnn May 2020 #77

There you go making logical, fact-based arguments. TomSlick May 2020 #99

Stop being so logical, dware May 2020 #100

Think how many face masks and PPE the nurses could have purchased with the money it cost. sop May 2020 #2

This, Lindsay May 2020 #3

+ 1000 n/t MFGsunny May 2020 #4

+10,000 Raster May 2020 #68

I get what your saying but the federal government don't run like a household budget. ahoysrcsm May 2020 #98

The hrs were already written into the budget. xmas74 May 2020 #105

Of course empedocles May 2020 #5

Feel-good insanity for the unhinged. Solly Mack May 2020 #6

This!👆 SheltieLover May 2020 #30

It is creepy. Solly Mack May 2020 #34

Good one! SheltieLover May 2020 #35

Yes, another campaign ad montanacowboy May 2020 #7

Yes Yonnie3 May 2020 #8

Worse, they were done for Trump's campaign ads. SoonerPride May 2020 #9

+1 crickets May 2020 #33

+2 jojog May 2020 #118

A lot of people just enjoy them in these trying times.Morale boosting,I guess. virgogal May 2020 #10

Was a waste of money RandiFan1290 May 2020 #19

this, a lot of people like them and they don't do any harm Amishman May 2020 #43

But why do people like them? LisaM May 2020 #60

Why do people like things I don't like? sarisataka May 2020 #66

Well, of course. But you can (presumably) avoid all those things. LisaM May 2020 #96

i like them, they're big cool loud machines Amishman May 2020 #85

No, it's not. nt RandiFan1290 May 2020 #90

Youd love my backyard. xmas74 May 2020 #106

These particular planes are former front line planes that will never see combat again. SQUEE May 2020 #94

YES,YES,YES GeorgeGist May 2020 #11

It strikes me as a USA! USA! type thing. Tipperary May 2020 #12

Unless this is being done as part of the normal training excercise, it's ok MacKasey May 2020 #13

They are already required the hrs in air. xmas74 May 2020 #107

I do. In normal times I like airshows, but obviously these aren't normal times The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #14

Now that's an idea, all right! Good one. n/t Judi Lynn May 2020 #21

I agree with you trixie2 May 2020 #78

Nothing accidental about it at all... Moostache May 2020 #15

Yes. phylny May 2020 #16

No RobinA May 2020 #17

Last night during the NBC evening news one of the commercials was a pro mf45 and it had kimbutgar May 2020 #18

It's damned creepy. No need for them to remind us our military can lay waste to the planet so often. Judi Lynn May 2020 #20

YES! smirkymonkey May 2020 #22

Not wasteful.... Happy Hoosier May 2020 #23

Oh yea. Huge waste of money. Aristus May 2020 #24

yes, but I am not at all nationalistic/ patriotic NRaleighLiberal May 2020 #25

It causes people to crowd places to watch like the mall in dc Blues Heron May 2020 #26

+100 Totally Tunsie May 2020 #81

Ask the nurses JCMach1 May 2020 #27

Of course it is. ooky May 2020 #28

War Porn. It's a reliable move to rally gullible people to a cause. Ron Green May 2020 #29

Nurses would prefer new PPE would be my guess. Merlot May 2020 #31

Trump says nurses and hospitals have all the PPE they need. subterranean May 2020 #53

Campaign video paid for by taxpayers. Liberal In Texas May 2020 #32

What I used to say when the base had open houses and shows. Wounded Bear May 2020 #36

"need to be flown and the pilots need their flight hours." Pantagruel May 2020 #42

A massive waste of our tax dollars tiredtoo May 2020 #37

That's not how Federal budgeting works Bucky May 2020 #40

Don't get serious now. tiredtoo May 2020 #88

I felt that way when I first heard of them a couple weeks ago. intheflow May 2020 #38

No money is being diverted from healthcare to jet flybys Bucky May 2020 #39

The money being paid to fuel those jets could be used iluvtennis May 2020 #41

It's what authoritarian regimes do. warmfeet May 2020 #44

I mean, I do like airshows and all, but... Tommy_Carcetti May 2020 #45

Whatever problem that we cannot bomb from the sky, we just walk away from. n/t Yavin4 May 2020 #46

To me, the money spent on the flyovers could be better spent on PPE gear... Sloumeau May 2020 #47

They're fine Loki Liesmith May 2020 #48

Waste (as at sporting events) mahannah May 2020 #50

I agree but ... aggiesal May 2020 #51

Yes. Dios Mio May 2020 #52

Yes, Yes,& Yes ProfessorGAC May 2020 #54

The only flyover that should be done is one for a departed airman. n/t sarge43 May 2020 #55

YES, YES, YES!!! citizen blues May 2020 #56

Yes! There are better uses for National Guard units ihaveaquestion May 2020 #57

Taxpayer funded tRUMP campaign ads. Why would anyone expect anything less?? NoMoreRepugs May 2020 #58

Yes. LisaM May 2020 #59

Practice for bombing runs on the hospitals? CloudWatcher May 2020 #61

No, I don't have a problem with it. The idea I think is to do something to raise the spirits totodeinhere May 2020 #62

No sarisataka May 2020 #63

Oh, THAT's what it was for. PatrickforO May 2020 #64

Good point, another national symbol taken down by the tRump cancer. nt yaesu May 2020 #65

YES!!! These are NOTHING but a waste of money and appeal to trump*s fanbase... Raster May 2020 #67

Absolutely. Think what good just the money wasted on fuel could do. sinkingfeeling May 2020 #69

How much is wasted on fuel? IronLionZion May 2020 #76

Dude hijacks shipments of PPE from states intended for nurses and first responders IronLionZion May 2020 #70

Total waste of money and time. overleft May 2020 #71

Yes. Warpy May 2020 #72

I love the Thunderbirds. leftyladyfrommo May 2020 #73

When I was a teen, I was out on a golf course playing golf with a lot of other kids. Blue_true May 2020 #102

Come sit in my backyard sometime. xmas74 May 2020 #108

Absolutely DavidDvorkin May 2020 #74

Now we know how Roman citizens felt when the emperor called for gladiator games. Pepsidog May 2020 #75

Yes riverbendviewgal May 2020 #79

Nope. Love 'em. Dial H For Hero May 2020 #80

where I am (NYC metro area) I think they were something of a morale boost fishwax May 2020 #82

I like airshows. rickford66 May 2020 #83

Absolutely. vanamonde May 2020 #84

Well, since the feds are hoarding PPE for themselves, flyovers are all they can offer. SunSeeker May 2020 #86

They could ask nurses: "Would you rather have us flyover, or would you like a visit from Mike?" struggle4progress May 2020 #87

How about flyover or PPE? Squinch May 2020 #114

Yes and no. MH1 May 2020 #89

Neither wasteful nor meaningless. Stinky The Clown May 2020 #91

I heard the same complaints when they did AF flyovers xmas74 May 2020 #109

Not sure where you are . . . . . Stinky The Clown May 2020 #110

Next to Whiteman AFB. xmas74 May 2020 #116

Was else flies there besides the B2s? Stinky The Clown May 2020 #119

Talons, xmas74 May 2020 #122

OK, then they should say that's what they are: pilots keeping up their skills. Instead, they're Squinch May 2020 #113

Their flying is already in the budget. Where they fly, and what they do makes the difference Stinky The Clown May 2020 #120

Me. Always did. SammyWinstonJack May 2020 #92

1000%. nt ecstatic May 2020 #93

Yes--100% BigDemVoter May 2020 #95

I have nothing particular against the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds. Caliman73 May 2020 #97

I do. Texaswitchy May 2020 #101

Incredibly so. All I can see is the burning up of our tax dollars. And I don't want to hear about niyad May 2020 #103

I suppose the air pollution levels are getting G_j May 2020 #104

The Blue Angels, Thunderbirds, Black Knights DeminPennswoods May 2020 #111

No, not at all Raine May 2020 #112

Not to mention 9.11 memories triggering for us in Lower Manhattan robbedvoter May 2020 #115

Yes a complete waste of time. nt Autumn May 2020 #117

I wonder where Jamaal510 May 2020 #121