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SinisterPants

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Fri May 8, 2020, 09:09 PM May 2020

As a former Forestry Dept. fire-fighter, this scares the shit out of me. [View all]

Fire season is upon us, and everyone living in the western U.S. knows what that means. The fires are going to come. Despite increased pressure from climate change and more people moving into boundary areas, the various agencies charged with wilderness fire-fighting do an admirable, sometimes heroic job. USDF green is one of the uniforms I will be forever proud that I wore. (along with Coast Guard blue).

What most people don't know is what a fire camp is like. They are crowded, hot, dirty, dry, full of toxic air (smoke, retardant, diesel, and just plain BO). Social distancing is impossible. Proper sanitation is impossible. Water (for anything other than drinking) is rare. Fire-fighters are crowded nut-to-butt, and are constantly trading equipment with strangers coming on or off the line. The idea of 20 sec hand washing is laughable. (3 min showers every 3 days when I worked the Santa Cruz "Blue Mountain" fire, and a wet wipe before meals or honey pot visits). That water has to be hauled up 50 miles of bad dirt road, with traffic jams.

Oh, and latex gloves and paper masks are out, except for camp, because of that pesky fire thing.

Now, wilderness fire-fighters DO self-select for people who are healthy and risk tolerant, and because fire season doesn't coincide with flu season, this hasn't really been a major concern. Now things are different.

Add to that the complete nightmare of an urban/wild boundary fire (cf. Paradise, CA), and trying to help hundreds, maybe thousands, of fire refugees without the usual FEMA/Red Cross shelters and food kitchens.

I know this is only one permutation of the times, and probably not the most important, but it IS important. Forestry (fed or state) will not get another dime. tRumpCo wants to see the west burn.

Keep them in mind, they are, along with the infantry and ER nurses, true front-line. Our fire-fighters are hard-core heroes, doing their job because it's needed. Find out what the front line fire grunts in your area need, and help if you can.

To anyone who is going to strap on a Pulaski and a piss-bag this summer, I salute you, and I wish I was there.

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Welcome to DU, and thank you for your most enlightening post. niyad May 2020 #1
I live in Washington State and I hadn't even thought about this one. Haggis for Breakfast May 2020 #2
I'm a firefighter sweetapogee May 2020 #3
Maybe I'm behind the times, or maybe it is different in the east... SinisterPants May 2020 #4
Never worked on a fire crew but I spent quite a while in the Oregon woods panader0 May 2020 #5
You used a hoedad alternately called a hoedag PufPuf23 May 2020 #22
Interesting back story about Ed Pulaski - He was a hero before he designed the Pulaski Brother Buzz May 2020 #27
Cool. I did not know that history. Thanks. nt PufPuf23 May 2020 #28
K&R Thanks for posting, and welcome to DU. alwaysinasnit May 2020 #6
I'm truly grateful for your service. Devilsun May 2020 #7
TY all for the welcomes... SinisterPants May 2020 #8
I live in hurricane alley... Ferrets are Cool May 2020 #9
Just thinking about shelters for those forced to evacuate gives me a headache. Grammy23 May 2020 #21
Based on the last few months, I truly doubt it. Ferrets are Cool May 2020 #26
I have been worried about this. LisaM May 2020 #10
I use to be a Fire Camp Slug mchill May 2020 #11
We love you folks DENVERPOPS May 2020 #12
I think I speak for most smoke eaters, we did it mainly for love... SinisterPants May 2020 #14
Out here on the California Coast, we know firefighters are our lifeline Hekate May 2020 #13
Kick and rec!..n/t bluecollar2 May 2020 #15
"we" really need to start isolating groups of key people. uncle ray May 2020 #16
that's a good point... SinisterPants May 2020 #18
As a Montanan...wild land firefighters are heroes to me. MontanaMama May 2020 #17
Your dad might have driven me... SinisterPants May 2020 #19
He very well might have! MontanaMama May 2020 #20
No way to know, but I choose to believe... SinisterPants May 2020 #23
You are correct SinsterPants in that firefighters live/work in crowded, stressful, and not PufPuf23 May 2020 #24
Recommended. Baked Potato May 2020 #25
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