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In reply to the discussion: Why Ron Paul attracts some liberals. [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)64. Ron Paul
"Great analysis. Some are obviously irked that you didn't chant 'racist' after mentioning Paul's name but I think that label is iffy at best (when you dig into the details of the newsletters, it becomes apparent that Paul didn't write the passages in question, and at worst showed poor management over the content of a product carrying his name - I've yet to see a "racist" quote from Paul himself)."
...is a racist among other things. In his own word:
In Book, Ron Paul Opposed Workplace Harassment Protections
Ron Paul may be be polling well in Iowa, but hes had a tough few weeks denying responsibility for racist and homophobic material once published under his name. Now, we can add womens rights to the list. And this time, it will be hard for Paul to place the blame on another author.
As highlighted by CNN on Friday, in his 1987 book, Freedom Under Siege: The U.S. Constitution After 200-Plus Years, republished in 2007, Ron Paul made some eyebrow-raising statements about sexual harassment and womens rights in the workplace:
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Other passages in the book include jabs about LGBT people and AIDS. Like the notorious newsletters which include unsavory passages about the AIDS epidemic, Paul writes that the Founding Fathers probably wouldnt favor AIDS research and that insurance companies should have the right to refuse care to patients with HIV/AIDS:
And of course, Paul also takes issue with minority rights, wondering, if theres a black and hispanic caucus in Congress, why not a white one too?
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/in-book-ron-paul-opposed-workplace-harassment-protections.php
Ron Paul may be be polling well in Iowa, but hes had a tough few weeks denying responsibility for racist and homophobic material once published under his name. Now, we can add womens rights to the list. And this time, it will be hard for Paul to place the blame on another author.
As highlighted by CNN on Friday, in his 1987 book, Freedom Under Siege: The U.S. Constitution After 200-Plus Years, republished in 2007, Ron Paul made some eyebrow-raising statements about sexual harassment and womens rights in the workplace:
Employee rights are said to be valid when employers pressure employees into sexual activity. Why dont they quit once the so-called harassment starts? Obviously the morals of the harasser cannot be defended, but how can the harassee escape some responsibility for the problem? Seeking protection under civil rights legislation is hardly acceptable.
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The concept of equal pay for equal work is not only an impossible task, it can only be accomplished with the total rejection of the idea of the voluntary contract. By what right does the government assume power to tell an airline it must hire unattractive women if it does not want to?
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Other passages in the book include jabs about LGBT people and AIDS. Like the notorious newsletters which include unsavory passages about the AIDS epidemic, Paul writes that the Founding Fathers probably wouldnt favor AIDS research and that insurance companies should have the right to refuse care to patients with HIV/AIDS:
Victims of the disease AIDS argue
for crash research programs (to be paid for by people who dont have AIDS), demanding a cure
The individual suffering from AIDS certainly is a victim frequently a victim of his own lifestyle but this same individual victimizes innocent citizens by forcing them to pay for his care. Crash research programs are hardly something, I believe, the Founding Fathers intended when they talked about equal rights.
And of course, Paul also takes issue with minority rights, wondering, if theres a black and hispanic caucus in Congress, why not a white one too?
White people who organize and expect the same attention as other groups are quickly and viciously condemned as dangerous bigots. Hispanic, black, and Jewish caucuses can exist in the U.S. Congress, but not a white caucus, demonstrating the absurdity of this approach for achieving rights for everyone.
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/in-book-ron-paul-opposed-workplace-harassment-protections.php
Its not because Ive changed my message, he told FOX Newss Chris Wallace, in one of several interviews on the Sunday political talk show circuit. This is what Ive worked my whole career to warn people about, he said, dismissing criticism that hes a candidate of the lunatic fringe.
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And the Texas congressman is sticking to his Libertarian guns. He doubled down on statements from one of his books, downplaying the need for sexual harassment laws in the workplace. Because people are insulted by behavior, I dont think we should make a federal case out of that, Paul said on FOX News Sunday, saying that unless there is a threat or act of violence, a sexually harassed person could choose or not choose to work at the offending location.
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/01/the-die-has-been-cast-ron-paul-makes-closing-argument-to-iowa.php?ref=fpa
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And the Texas congressman is sticking to his Libertarian guns. He doubled down on statements from one of his books, downplaying the need for sexual harassment laws in the workplace. Because people are insulted by behavior, I dont think we should make a federal case out of that, Paul said on FOX News Sunday, saying that unless there is a threat or act of violence, a sexually harassed person could choose or not choose to work at the offending location.
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/01/the-die-has-been-cast-ron-paul-makes-closing-argument-to-iowa.php?ref=fpa
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I kinda put some blame Kucinich for giving Paul some legitimacy to the far left in 2008
PeaceNikki
Jan 2012
#1
Grayson and/or Kennedy didn't literally, to my knowledge, say they'd pick Paul as a running mate.
PeaceNikki
Jan 2012
#79
Whatever, Democrats respect the man, that was my point. If he's such a Hitler or whatever
sabrina 1
Jan 2012
#85
"mired in low level, boring, unimportant, mean-spirited, schoolyard rhetoric"
joshcryer
Jan 2012
#134
You do understand that the US military empire exists mainly for the 1%, right?
eridani
Jan 2012
#158
Claiming to align with Ron Paul's position on international matters is either terrifying or ignorant
PeaceNikki
Jan 2012
#159
You nailed it. The attempt is to smear anyone who dare challenge War, War on Drugs as
Romulox
Jan 2012
#184
Ron Paul DOESN'T attract "liberals." He attracts myopic, single-issue bots.
ClassWarrior
Jan 2012
#2
The key point, however, is that DEMS could be attracting those single-issue bots instead...
ClassWarrior
Jan 2012
#7
True. So any Dem who is truly anti-war could walk away with those particular...
ClassWarrior
Jan 2012
#20
I'm saying Paul has managed to portray himself as more anti-war than his...
ClassWarrior
Jan 2012
#28
Regardless of how "he has been able to," it's obvious that taking a strong anti-war...
ClassWarrior
Jan 2012
#47
Forget Paul, he's not even a consideration here, so I don't get the obsession with him.
sabrina 1
Jan 2012
#81
The irony is did you know one the the earliest major online promoters of Paul
Blue_Tires
Jan 2012
#171
I don't see civil liberties as exactly the same as civil rights, though closely related.
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#51
I said as much though without civil liberties civil rights is just equal access to no rights.
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#176
Yes, and the OP thinks "ending the wars" is not as important as avoiding "trashing the economy."
joshcryer
Jan 2012
#112
I was speaking of your opinion of the OP who was the subject of your comment.
sabrina 1
Jan 2012
#117
Yes, if the question contains an accusation. Which is why I asked for clarification.
sabrina 1
Jan 2012
#139
Perhaps, people often do read more into things than is intended. Which is why I
sabrina 1
Jan 2012
#161
Well now you know that Madhound has been on DU for ten years is a longtime Democrat
sabrina 1
Jan 2012
#164
I watched Ronald Reagan using the same racist dog whistles to attract some "liberals", once
NNN0LHI
Jan 2012
#49
Great analysis. Some are obviously irked that you didn't chant "racist" after mentioning Paul's name
Skip Intro
Jan 2012
#63
But what does it matter whether it's based on personal racism or on 'limited government'?
LeftishBrit
Jan 2012
#89
Well, I am not even compelled to read a post unless there's info in the title.
joshcryer
Jan 2012
#83
His stance on war is much more in line with hard right isolationists of the 1930's and early 1940's
alcibiades_mystery
Jan 2012
#93
It went on for awhile, at least until the 50s-60s. We know Cuba was behind that sort of thing.
joshcryer
Jan 2012
#126
Paul exposes the fact that many Democrats *enthusiastically* (not reluctantly!) support War, War on
Romulox
Jan 2012
#95
Have you ever heard of the "Third Way" and the "New Democrat" movement??? It's EXACTLY what you
Romulox
Jan 2012
#185
You don't actually defend War, War on Drugs--instead you accuse anyone who holds these positions of
Romulox
Jan 2012
#186
Great post! Too bad your thoughtful observation will be lost in the din of invective
whatchamacallit
Jan 2012
#102
And Pat Buchanan attracts some liberals for his stance on free trade? I don't think so.
pampango
Jan 2012
#175
Um, NAFTA is loved by CATO, US Chamber of Commerce, Mitt Romney, et al. So what's your point?
Romulox
Jan 2012
#180
It's really not that hard to get. He's the only person talking about our foreign policy or the drug
Puregonzo1188
Jan 2012
#190