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stopbush

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65. Considering the crisis we're in, and realizing that most Americans live paycheck to paycheck

Sat May 9, 2020, 08:47 PM

May 2020

I am more than fine with the relative HANDFUL of Americans earning $110,000 a year who would be eligible for an additional $24,000 a year in relief payments.

I’d rather the Feds take quick, broad-based actions that directly help millions, rather than waste time by clutching their pearls in an attempt to exclude this or that group of citizens for this or that arbitrary reason because someone splits hairs over what is and isn’t fair.

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Sorry, but this "$2,000/month for everyone" is total crap [View all] Alhena May 2020 OP

Can I have yours? lame54 May 2020 #1

+1000000 jpak May 2020 #5

"As long as I get mine" is apparently all most care about Alhena May 2020 #6

Is that a yes? lame54 May 2020 #10

I think you misunderstand the point. Happy Hoosier May 2020 #15

This. EMERGENCY RELIEF doubling as STIMULUS distributed Hortensis May 2020 #115

I'm there myself Tink41 May 2020 #120

You're quite correct. Arthur_Frain May 2020 #79

It was part of pandemic plan Tink41 May 2020 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author Jamastiene May 2020 #107

Confused? Tink41 May 2020 #119

Sorry. I was agreeing, but it ended up in the wrong place. Jamastiene May 2020 #130

No worries: NT Tink41 May 2020 #131

I agree it's the same as health insurance Tribetime May 2020 #104

Exactly. Jamastiene May 2020 #105

Thank You For Saying So. It's Total Bullsh*t. Indykatie May 2020 #2

What if someone making 110k per year wants to quit their job to take care of aging parent(s)? roamer65 May 2020 #3

Well for this to work, people's situation must be documented, need established. So costs to emmaverybo May 2020 #12

You're against a universal basic income??? PTWB May 2020 #24

Yes. emmaverybo May 2020 #68

You must not know much about UBI then. PTWB May 2020 #80

If UBI is such an obviously brilliant strategy, explain why it has no political traction. brooklynite May 2020 #122

Opposition to UBI is hardly outrageous Codeine May 2020 #134

Then many people will fall through the cracks Happy Hoosier May 2020 #26

+1000 Happy Hoosier. MH1 May 2020 #43

I did not say or Imply that. I think a program to assist those who need help can be developed and emmaverybo May 2020 #70

Any effective measure must had two characteristics. Happy Hoosier May 2020 #93

Good argument for those of us who have concerns. emmaverybo May 2020 #99

And The Chances It Will Get Through The Senate Are ZERO nt sfstaxprep May 2020 #4

Less than zero with Mitch the Con. Wall Street not Main Street. SammyWinstonJack May 2020 #35

The cost alone will stop it ripcord May 2020 #128

Means testing is bullshit. I'm fine if everyone gets it. WhiskeyGrinder May 2020 #7

If they're going by 2109 tax returns, AirmensMom May 2020 #8

If the person making $110 in 2019 is unemployed in 2020 Yavin4 May 2020 #58

I think AirmensMom May 2020 #71

The discussion is that they shouldn't be. Yavin4 May 2020 #81

+1 KentuckyWoman May 2020 #98

I'll consider it haz pay for MyNameGoesHere May 2020 #9

I support it if the person is unemployed. Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #11

What counts as "unemployed?" Happy Hoosier May 2020 #94

How about people that quit their jobs because they now make around $2000 per month ? MichMan May 2020 #137

OH! A WHOLE $2000/mo? Happy Hoosier May 2020 #139

By my quick math that 4 or 5 trillion a year madville May 2020 #13

Post removed Post removed May 2020 #18

So you're accusing Nancy Pelosi of selling snake oil?? Turin_C3PO May 2020 #31

Canada is doing this - we need to do it womanofthehills May 2020 #45

Yes they are. Wellstone ruled May 2020 #52

There is always money when corporations want it Bettie May 2020 #20

Or when it's time to go to war gratuitous May 2020 #27

Yes, that too Bettie May 2020 #30

Or when it's time to make lots more nukes womanofthehills May 2020 #125

We just dropped 3 trillion to save businesses. Happy Hoosier May 2020 #28

Let's just make it 10k a month then madville May 2020 #41

Are you going to TRY and understand at all? Happy Hoosier May 2020 #92

So at some point the political will is going to be there to take it away? MichMan May 2020 #112

There would also be offsets - money that won't have to be paid out in other ways. ooky May 2020 #56

4 or 5 trillion being added to the economy every year MissMillie May 2020 #116

What sort of fair system would you propose that determines who needs help? KY_EnviroGuy May 2020 #14

You raise a relevant point. The more restrictive it is the more people who really need it might fall totodeinhere May 2020 #64

Yes, and anyone like me that's known a number of people.... KY_EnviroGuy May 2020 #78

This will never get passed. Buckeyeblue May 2020 #16

I just get SS disability and have reasonable cost of living circumstances. I'd have to say I don't brewens May 2020 #17

I live off 12,000$ a year, I wouldn't turn it down Marrah_Goodman May 2020 #19

Same here I_UndergroundPanther May 2020 #126

Means testing will mean it's a welfare program. It should be for all or none. PSPS May 2020 #21

Howard Dean's campaign message was "Bill Gates deserves free health care..." brooklynite May 2020 #22

There are some sound economic reasons for healthy capitalism PufPuf23 May 2020 #23

what about me? qazplm135 May 2020 #25

It's to make sure everybody gets it. As it is now the repugs... brush May 2020 #29

So I am wondering if the OP is Chainfire May 2020 #32

Immaterial, as it is totally dead on arrival. Codeine May 2020 #33

So Canada can do it plus have free health care but USA....not so much womanofthehills May 2020 #75

"Canada can do it" is a simplistic Codeine May 2020 #101

"we CAN do it, but we won't" seems rather simplistic as well LanternWaste May 2020 #124

Any wealthy nation CAN do such a thing, Codeine May 2020 #132

Our CERB is taxable. And EllieBC May 2020 #102

Is it a bit too much for too many? Yep. Afromania May 2020 #34

It's about getting the most bang for your policy buck. meadowlander May 2020 #36

How about giving everyone the $2K and tax it back from high earners? Yavin4 May 2020 #47

No... it's not about individuals... Happy Hoosier May 2020 #95

I got screwed re: the $1200, so this pipe dream would be nice, especially jmg257 May 2020 #37

What happened? PTWB May 2020 #62

Made too much last year (just), even though I got furloughed. jmg257 May 2020 #69

You will be able to claim it on your 2020 taxes kelly1mm May 2020 #91

Ah thanks for that - will certainly do so! Cheers! Nt jmg257 May 2020 #114

Everybody has their OWN opinion i guess. bluestarone May 2020 #38

lol aidbo May 2020 #39

Would You Prefer a Prolonged, Severe Economic Depression? waterwatcher123 May 2020 #40

GOOD EXAMPLE of the logical fallacy known as False Dichotomy. Theres more than 2 options .. nt Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2020 #85

If we do not demand it will go to corporations/banks delisen May 2020 #42

Donate it then. LakeArenal May 2020 #44

+1. Exactly. LuckyCharms May 2020 #48

You could throw a hissy fit about it or simply tax the not needy next year and take it back. Yavin4 May 2020 #46

I am willing to.. mvd May 2020 #49

There is no way to separate, other by income level lettucebe May 2020 #50

This shows that you have absolutely no idea about what money is Blecht May 2020 #51

Kick and rec I_UndergroundPanther May 2020 #127

When President Obama did the payroll tax cut, I gave all the money to charity. Blue_true May 2020 #53

It can be easily taxed back from high income earners. n/t Yavin4 May 2020 #57

Means test on the back end. Help people now. SoonerPride May 2020 #54

+1 crickets May 2020 #55

Huh, sounds a lot like Socialism. HotTeaBag May 2020 #59

Pernie Danders never proposed a UBI. Andrew Yang did. SoonerPride May 2020 #60

It depnds on the reason for the payments. If they are designed to help needy people who are totodeinhere May 2020 #61

UBI is OK with me. aikoaiko May 2020 #63

Considering the crisis we're in, and realizing that most Americans live paycheck to paycheck stopbush May 2020 #65

There is literally not one single person who is properly educated about UBI that opposes it. PTWB May 2020 #66

Unemployment system has failed MoonlitKnight May 2020 #67

we would love it. We have a few small bills that would demtenjeep May 2020 #72

Don't worry, it will never pass. Our best shot at getting would have been in the first stimulus jalan48 May 2020 #73

de rec nt Celerity May 2020 #74

If we're all warriors ... GeorgeGist May 2020 #76

The point is that the money will be spent and pay for itself flamingdem May 2020 #77

And Another Thing!! Tink41 May 2020 #83

Take it down a few notches Sewa May 2020 #87

See Reply #82 Tink41 May 2020 #100

people who have enough money say things like this bigtree May 2020 #84

+1 EllieBC May 2020 #89

Billions to corporations and churches and no one complains that we can't afford it. Anything for Autumn May 2020 #86

THIS Jamastiene May 2020 #108

It's a STIMULUS plan SoCalDem May 2020 #88

Get back to us with equal concern over liberalhistorian May 2020 #90

You never hear "What about our children and grandchildren?" Jamastiene May 2020 #109

That'd be a few hundred more a month then what I get now. Kaleva May 2020 #96

Two things could happen BGBD May 2020 #97

We still haven't received our stimulus check, so all of this is hokey pokey to us. Baitball Blogger May 2020 #103

When Obama I_UndergroundPanther May 2020 #129

Way to cut your nose off to spsite your face. Jamastiene May 2020 #106

What is the evidential basis for saying that "half the rich don't even pay taxes"? brooklynite May 2020 #121

There are three proposals JustAnotherGen May 2020 #110

The time is right to enact the Farseer plan. TheFarseer May 2020 #111

Free college for ALL regardless of income BlueLucy May 2020 #113

This. A thousand times this. nt Codeine May 2020 #133

And this is why we will never fix the problem whistler162 May 2020 #117

There's a reason Yang was never more than a fringe presidential candidate Tarc May 2020 #118

The Ds who are proposing this are truly visionaries. They are looking at our stopbush May 2020 #123

These are extraordinary times RussBLib May 2020 #135

The people who are still working will never go for it then Calculating May 2020 #136

Especially those making that much now or a little more ? MichMan May 2020 #138