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40. Sweden vs Ohio

Sun May 10, 2020, 02:45 PM

May 2020

Sweden has about 10.25 million people, Ohio has about 11.7m. The total populations of both is comparable. Sweden has been more open.

Ohio has been very proactive with a basic shutdown of retail, bars and restaurants, schools, restrictive nursing homes and elective procedures.

Sweden 26,322 cases/3225 deaths/2606 cases per million/319 deaths per million

Ohio 24,081 cases/1341 deaths/2060 cases per million/115 deaths per million

I live in Ohio so I may be a bit bias, but it seems that open is worse than restrictive.

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What do you think about Thomas Friedman's idea to at least talk about the Swedish approach? [View all] LAS14 May 2020 OP

1.3 million deaths. Salviati May 2020 #1

The important thing to understand is that the Swedish approach.... LAS14 May 2020 #3

But treatments might be found. LisaM May 2020 #4

Sweden did not treat people about a certain age...I call it murder myself...no different than what Demsrule86 May 2020 #11

that's a flat out lie, pushed by RWNJ's here on white nationalist websites, distorted, and then run Celerity May 2020 #33

But that's not the only thing that flattening the curve does. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #19

not sure where you got that idea Blues Heron May 2020 #28

Correct. What is relevent is that it decreases the percentage of deaths per infection. Tom Rinaldo May 2020 #29

It has been talked about. Search herd immunity. Cicada May 2020 #2

Yeah, but when I posted this idea on DU early on... LAS14 May 2020 #7

Honestly, that is the GOP's argument. Mine is simple, there will be no economy until the virus is Demsrule86 May 2020 #12

The only way to stop the economic devastation is to stop the pandemic. Salviati May 2020 #13

"so that this idea isn't owned by the far right" crickets May 2020 #15

I agree it deserves consideration Cicada May 2020 #23

You should go ahead and try it rusty fender May 2020 #32

Need to discuss all alternatives as things change. Good article that's about much more than Sweden. Hoyt May 2020 #5

Nature is so misunderstood DFW May 2020 #16

Amen! Delphinus May 2020 #35

I think he's an idiot whose stock in trade is to act the illogical contrarian. stopbush May 2020 #6

I think it is a big "fuck you" to people in high risk catagories Marrah_Goodman May 2020 #8

The Conservative are all over this Sweden thing genxlib May 2020 #9

Having said that genxlib May 2020 #10

Your last sentence ... Delphinus May 2020 #36

Doesn't his family own shopping centers? He's fabulously rich. snowybirdie May 2020 #14

I think that I don't care what Friedman says. Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #17

The idea is dim witted at best... tonedevil May 2020 #18

That Mr. Friedman, Sir, Remains An Idiot The Magistrate May 2020 #20

Thomas Friedman on the Iraq War Downtown Hound May 2020 #21

Governmental orders only go so far. DemocratSinceBirth May 2020 #22

I already thought the idea was stupid and heartless. dawg May 2020 #24

Sweden's Herd Immunity Doctor, "not convinced" unconventional anti-lockdown "was the best option" uponit7771 May 2020 #25

Well, okay, talk about it-- dawg day May 2020 #26

"letting it spread" is not a viable approach with this virus Blues Heron May 2020 #27

Why the fuck would anyone care what Thomas Friedman has to say about this? Dave Starsky May 2020 #30

I don't read or listen to Friedman about anything. Anything! old guy May 2020 #31

Speaker for Billionaires wants the peasants Voltaire2 May 2020 #34

Tom Friedman remains mightly impressed DeminPennswoods May 2020 #37

Has he moved to Sweden to test it out for the rest of us? JHB May 2020 #38

You keep peddling this idea of creating herd immunity Ms. Toad May 2020 #39

Sweden vs Ohio Mendocino May 2020 #40

Our large fail, a horrid tragedy (and the main reason we are so badly off in terms of deaths Celerity May 2020 #41