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aint_no_life_nowhere

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44. I think it depends

Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:59 AM

Sep 2012

If the papparazzi who took the shots trespassed on private property to get the photo, that's one thing. Quite another is whether the breasts could be seen from a public street. I wouldn't have an expectation of privacy if I were to open my curtains of my living room and display my nude body to the neighbors or passers by. The police wouldn't be committing a "search" for example, if they were able to see criminal activity on private property if it is in public view and then engaged in an arrest thereupon.

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Today's simple lesson: If you don't want pictures of you topless to go public----- [View all] trumad Sep 2012 OP

That's an embarrassing thing for a potential employer to bring up at the interview 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #1

:) pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #3

Well, he is unemployed and has been living on Government Aid his entire life. FSogol Sep 2012 #8

Typical welfare-princess 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #10

English anchor babies. n/t FSogol Sep 2012 #15

Yeah, they can always sell some stock if times get tough. renie408 Sep 2012 #11

Or borrow $20-30k from their parents and start a business. FSogol Sep 2012 #14

He's actually not unemployed laundry_queen Sep 2012 #25

Yes, I have to hand it to both of those guys.. they DO work! DavidL Sep 2012 #53

Actually, he's currently a commissioned officer in the RAF. GoCubsGo Sep 2012 #184

Beh-taahahaha!!!! louis-t Sep 2012 #110

Who cares? Kate is a woman. MineralMan Sep 2012 #2

Uh--- that's not the point of the thread. trumad Sep 2012 #4

And if they shot the photos through the windows of th Private Villa? edhopper Sep 2012 #6

What is the point of the thread, then, trumad? MineralMan Sep 2012 #24

Ugg... trumad Sep 2012 #32

Right. You don't care... MineralMan Sep 2012 #43

We should never, ever become outraged over something that happens... LanternWaste Sep 2012 #79

+1 antiquie Sep 2012 #34

All that matters is that she cares. nt NCTraveler Sep 2012 #13

Nah. The only thing that's wrong with this whole MineralMan Sep 2012 #20

ahhn the simple world you live in trumad Sep 2012 #39

"Tabloids sell because people love shit like this. " MineralMan Sep 2012 #42

Absolutely true. What I am looking for is real factual news not sensation and that is all the tabs jwirr Sep 2012 #57

Its a French magazine : not a tabloid. dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #62

I was quoting another poster. MineralMan Sep 2012 #81

Hadn't realised that dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #150

"...why would anyone be titillated by seeing Kate Middleton's breasts?" Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #70

regardless of whether a woman is receptive to the idea or not. nt seabeyond Sep 2012 #71

no, consent factors into it... Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #76

So, can I assume that trumad's post led you to search for the photos? MineralMan Sep 2012 #72

I'll take a look when I'm not at work... Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #93

"tit"illated? LMAO L0oniX Sep 2012 #102

No other word fits nearly as well. MineralMan Sep 2012 #125

You're blaming Kate? Seriously? cynatnite Sep 2012 #5

Wow! Is that what you got from this.... ?? trumad Sep 2012 #23

She wasn't in public...she was in a private villa... cynatnite Sep 2012 #28

Agree 100 percent trumad Sep 2012 #35

She was not in public. She was at a private villa with the expectation that she had privacy.... cynatnite Sep 2012 #38

Hard to have an expectation of privacy when you know there are super zoom cameras and a Lex Sep 2012 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author cynatnite Sep 2012 #54

Yes, this. treestar Sep 2012 #158

all I know it their security SUCKS elehhhhna Sep 2012 #180

Just a small note nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #194

On photography and the "right to privacy"... regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #92

Some people think that celebrities have no privacy. Such as the papparazzi, for instance. Zalatix Sep 2012 #134

EXACTLY! I am amazed that a simple moral issue has such heated discussion here. alp227 Sep 2012 #168

Unfortunately, when you become a member of the English Royal Family, you lose some "freedoms" blueamy66 Sep 2012 #171

If someone had used a mega zoom lens to spy on the Obama girls... cynatnite Sep 2012 #175

I guess that I just don't see the need to sunbathe topless. blueamy66 Sep 2012 #176

YOU don't see the need to sunbathe topless. randome Sep 2012 #177

No, like members of the English Royal Family. blueamy66 Sep 2012 #182

You don't, but many women do both in public and in private. Kate was in private... cynatnite Sep 2012 #179

I disagree. blueamy66 Sep 2012 #183

yes Mr. Assagne we all know it is the woman's fault... whistler162 Sep 2012 #199

Good advice! (pic warning) RandiFan1290 Sep 2012 #7

Oh god, that is just painful to look at! smirkymonkey Sep 2012 #185

I preemptively uploaded topless pics of myself on Facebook this morning.... cbdo2007 Sep 2012 #9

Link? L0oniX Sep 2012 #104

I agreee...these inbred tools are only famous because they have joeybee12 Sep 2012 #12

So, if I had 50 paparazzi following me and promoting me for absolutely no reason, I'd be famous! cynatnite Sep 2012 #19

Happy to help... joeybee12 Sep 2012 #29

That wasn't your point? cynatnite Sep 2012 #33

I don't get why anyone cares, really. It's France. Jennicut Sep 2012 #16

Exactly! nt MineralMan Sep 2012 #21

Exactly. Sounds like she's ashamed. If I looked like her I'd be Lex Sep 2012 #47

She has boobs! So do I. Jennicut Sep 2012 #55

if we do not want our boobs on the net for a man to jack off to, per a poster on this thread seabeyond Sep 2012 #61

But you're not, so hers is the opinion that matters. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #107

Apparently the word "if" confuses you. Lex Sep 2012 #126

if you're gonna start the thread, at least post the photo... Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #17

+1 L0oniX Sep 2012 #106

I prefer to say: if you don't want to be shamed for being topless, don't be American DonRedwood Sep 2012 #18

Going topless in a PRIVATE VILLA Le Taz Hot Sep 2012 #22

See post 23 trumad Sep 2012 #26

They were at a private home. n/t cynatnite Sep 2012 #30

No matter trumad Sep 2012 #36

It does matter. She had every reason to feel that she could relax in privacy... cynatnite Sep 2012 #40

The point is--- trumad Sep 2012 #41

It's like saying she asked for it. n/t cynatnite Sep 2012 #56

Bingo. And then telling us where to look to see the photos. MineralMan Sep 2012 #74

BS. She had EVERY REASON to anticipate such intrusion. TheMadMonk Sep 2012 #186

Agree 100% JSK Sep 2012 #173

Yes, if you're a woman, you should keep yourself covered at all times. randome Sep 2012 #178

Outdoors and visible from a public street (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #37

I think it depends aint_no_life_nowhere Sep 2012 #44

Yes, I saw your "fucking point" before I posted. Le Taz Hot Sep 2012 #46

This. redqueen Sep 2012 #50

It's another version of "she asked for it". n/t cynatnite Sep 2012 #59

Yeah, but putting the blame there won't stop it from happening, either. randome Sep 2012 #77

I don't get why your point is so goddamned hard for some people here to understand. Guh. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #113

Check how American courts have ruled nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #195

First Harry's ass, now Kate's breasts! Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #27

I will never understand why we as humans are so afraid of our bodies Drale Sep 2012 #31

Ever hear of PRIVACY? alp227 Sep 2012 #169

I never go topless in public. I just forget my pants. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #48

what a ridiculous argument that others dont have a problem with a woman exposed, SHE should not seabeyond Sep 2012 #49

My question is why do they care? Drale Sep 2012 #51

Because her privacy is violated? alp227 Sep 2012 #170

Here's what I don't get. The Palace knows this can happen. no_hypocrisy Sep 2012 #52

That was my point as well Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #108

I'm not "ashamed" of my body but that doesn't mean I want my nude pictures published in a tabloid. redqueen Sep 2012 #58

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! alp227 Sep 2012 #172

I agree with you. KitSileya Sep 2012 #206

It's against French law; but the magazine will pay the fine muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #60

Comment from Closer UK. dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #66

Italian magazine plans 26-page special on topless Kate photos dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #188

Lots of $$$$$$ stands to be made from the sale of these pictures. Who cares that what she wants. redqueen Sep 2012 #189

I can't believe you really mean that. dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #192

You're right. I don't. redqueen Sep 2012 #196

surely they won't be making $$$ since these countries are so much more sophisticated and dont care seabeyond Sep 2012 #203

And now the Irish Daily Star, part-owned by Richard Desmond muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #190

Richard desmond has announced ending the joint venture dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #200

ya know... for all thsoe saying boobies not a big deal, seems all these countries and newspapers seabeyond Sep 2012 #204

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #63

what makes you think it is about YOU? are we really so void in our ability to respect another seabeyond Sep 2012 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #133

brilliant post. it was a big enough fuckin deal to the woman whose privacy was invaded seabeyond Sep 2012 #145

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #151

Pity the royals and other celebs tama Sep 2012 #167

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #181

So...people shouldn't go nude in the privacy of a private area? Alduin Sep 2012 #65

For the record, that magazine is owned by . . . . wait for it . . . . Stinky The Clown Sep 2012 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #152

Publishing the pictures was in bad taste. dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #68

No it wasn't. Atman Sep 2012 #83

it is always nifty when a man tells a woman, that has had privacy invaded, how SHE should feel seabeyond Sep 2012 #85

Oh, you again. Atman Sep 2012 #95

you said she should not be bothered. who are you to tell her how she should feel. i HOPE seabeyond Sep 2012 #98

No, I did not say "she should not be bothered." Atman Sep 2012 #112

ha. i really doubt that she has an issue with people standing up for HER right to take off top seabeyond Sep 2012 #122

I think you just enjoy being outraged. Atman Sep 2012 #129

mmmm, seems like you are having much more from being outraged at my supposed outrage seabeyond Sep 2012 #146

I am stunned that some don't get this point. trumad Sep 2012 #163

"She's a celebrity" doesn't make stalking okay, much as you seem to insist otherwise. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #100

I didn't say it makes stalking OKAY! Jesus F. Christ! Atman Sep 2012 #105

Every post where you put the onus on anyone other than the paparazzi, for one. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #109

That is just ridiculous. Atman Sep 2012 #120

Tell me, tama Sep 2012 #166

True, but the publisher is in the "sales" business, not the "taste" business... Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #96

No need for that lesson taterguy Sep 2012 #69

A quote from the great Ronnie Mund Inkfreak Sep 2012 #73

What's totally pathetic is that the public even cares about women covering our breasts. Zorra Sep 2012 #75

this was france, not america. where boobs should not make headlines and they did. against a womans seabeyond Sep 2012 #84

It appears that you completely misunderstood my post. I apologize for not being more clear. Zorra Sep 2012 #159

what i don't get with your post, is this happened in france. where being topless is no big deal. YET seabeyond Sep 2012 #160

"The pictures almost certainly won't be published in Britain, Zorra Sep 2012 #161

She could shut the whole thing down very quickly... Atman Sep 2012 #78

Bullshit leftynyc Sep 2012 #80

I'll bet Queen Elizabeth never went topless even in a private location. WI_DEM Sep 2012 #82

I have no idea why this is considered such important "news". PavePusher Sep 2012 #86

It's not even news, really. MineralMan Sep 2012 #89

Spew warning, please... PavePusher Sep 2012 #91

It is a great word, isn't it? MineralMan Sep 2012 #97

Onomatopoeia. randome Sep 2012 #101

Probably, even in the Latin. MineralMan Sep 2012 #116

Fess up, trumad... MineralMan Sep 2012 #87

I haven't looked it up.... PavePusher Sep 2012 #88

"you helped publicize them" Upton Sep 2012 #137

What horror? MineralMan Sep 2012 #141

Well I went over to Free Republic to see if I could find them... trumad Sep 2012 #164

Interesting thread reactions. Something similar once happened to a famous man Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #90

"Folks here went to 'breats, we are prudes we are animals, men are this, women are that'... redqueen Sep 2012 #130

I think I get the point you are making. The Link Sep 2012 #94

how far away do you have to be ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2012 #99

The funny/sad/scary part will come when Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #103

let's take that down a notch... ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2012 #111

Oh, yeah -- I keep forgetting about those... Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #117

probably... ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2012 #119

Have you seen Google's new 3D city maps? Atman Sep 2012 #123

but, is it ok THEN to use the image? ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2012 #124

I don't know. These are issue which will have to be adjudicated as technology moves forward. Atman Sep 2012 #135

i'm going to take this down a dark, disturbing road ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2012 #139

Actually, I think most of the things you mentioned are illegal. Atman Sep 2012 #143

that is my point ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2012 #144

In a world where corporations are people and money is free speech... Atman Sep 2012 #147

i was thinking about this. how easy to blame her. what IF.... they spent a half hour looking at seabeyond Sep 2012 #118

don't even need a tree anymore ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2012 #121

Yeah, kinda. Atman Sep 2012 #127

do you think you should ever have the expectation of privacy? ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2012 #131

Of course I do. Atman Sep 2012 #138

"you and I will probably never have to worry about this" ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2012 #140

The same thing has happened to Diana, Jackie K O, and Fergie. They should have known. appleannie1 Sep 2012 #114

My wife sunbathes in my backyard, nude, on a regular basis. So does my daughter. Xithras Sep 2012 #115

Too much is made out of nudity liberal N proud Sep 2012 #128

There's (amazingly enough) a bigger issue here... brooklynite Sep 2012 #132

a nation like france that is so sophisticated they do not care about nudity uses pictures of a seabeyond Sep 2012 #149

"Yeah I know they were in a private villa" Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #136

French laws about privacy are VERY strict; closeupready Sep 2012 #142

They already have.... joeybee12 Sep 2012 #148

I'd bet that William feels enthusiastic about suing their closeupready Sep 2012 #154

Royals launch legal action after topless Kate Middleton photographs in French Closer magazine dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #153

Good. closeupready Sep 2012 #155

good. thanks. read maybe on this thread, UK closer is pretty pissed at france's closer, also. nt seabeyond Sep 2012 #157

Good news, it is not the US nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #197

And women who dress suggestively should expect to be raped? Blue Idaho Sep 2012 #156

You have a reasonable expectation of privacy hifiguy Sep 2012 #162

Check us law in similar cases nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #198

They are tama Sep 2012 #165

Doesn't seem like such a 'simple' lesson anymore, does it? randome Sep 2012 #174

here would be the position of photographer, and the distance. seabeyond Sep 2012 #187

Fucking hell. nt redqueen Sep 2012 #191

That's a long distance Generic Other Sep 2012 #193

The side issue of that dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #202

Today's simple lesson -- don't go outside to expose your naughty bits. Major Hogwash Sep 2012 #207

yup. right on. nt seabeyond Sep 2012 #208

The pictures are so blurry I can't be sure it's Kate RegieRocker Sep 2012 #201

What part of private doesn't the ohheckyeah Sep 2012 #205

That's right, blame the victim. NashvilleLefty Sep 2012 #209

so many have decided she should have known that just was not isolated enough seabeyond Sep 2012 #210

yeah, let's say you're topless in your fenced backyard... ibegurpard Sep 2012 #211