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Zalatix

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17. +1,000, game, set, match.

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Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:42 PM

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Conspiracy to incite riot vs free speech [View all] Jessy169 Sep 2012 OP

If you believe he did so MrDiaz Sep 2012 #1

Why did Shrub CJCRANE Sep 2012 #5

i forgot about the mohammed in a bear suit thing. loli phabay Sep 2012 #14

Coordinated attacks on 2 embassies on 9/11 KurtNYC Sep 2012 #2

The easiest way to show the RWers' hypocrisy is to ask: CJCRANE Sep 2012 #3

I have not watched the video - does it advocate violence directly? el_bryanto Sep 2012 #4

"We went into this knowing this was probably going to happen," Klein said. Jessy169 Sep 2012 #7

If someone made a similar film exposing various Popes as venal and feckless el_bryanto Sep 2012 #8

But why did Shrub bomb an Al Jazeera office CJCRANE Sep 2012 #27

Well I'm pretty sure I oppose bombing the Al Jazeera office el_bryanto Sep 2012 #36

In the right circles the video is like yelling "Fire!" in a theater. We need to remember snappyturtle Sep 2012 #6

Also look at how the Pentagon views terrorist propaganda. CJCRANE Sep 2012 #9

Right! nt snappyturtle Sep 2012 #73

No the fuck it isn't by any honest stretch of the imagination, there is no reasonable threat to life TheKentuckian Sep 2012 #79

You know what they say isisdianahecate369 Jan 2013 #81

welcome to DU--love your screen name niyad Jan 2013 #84

I'll take my content over "their's" all day, every day. TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #85

I'm not a Muslim, I wasn't offended, and burnsei sensei Sep 2012 #10

But flip it the other way... CJCRANE Sep 2012 #11

The US already does enough to incite hatred of Americans without Al Qaeda saying anything. L0oniX Sep 2012 #23

Insulting a religous leader is legal in this country Marrah_G Sep 2012 #12

as it should be. loli phabay Sep 2012 #15

I agree Marrah_G Sep 2012 #19

But if the religious leader is in another country you should be sent over there to face their wrath Zalatix Sep 2012 #26

AND if you try to defend free speech and 1A, you are obviously an Islamaphobe bigot riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #61

Well one person called me an Islamophobe. I forwarded the post to my buddies. We rioted. Zalatix Sep 2012 #68

Good grief what if they decide our pro-choice policies are blasphemous and incites riots? dkf Sep 2012 #13

+1,000, game, set, match. Zalatix Sep 2012 #17

The video was eliminationist, that's why they're angry. CJCRANE Sep 2012 #18

Why do you say that? Did you see it? dkf Sep 2012 #24

The guy whio made it said "Islam is a cancer". That's similar to the Nazi's eliminationist rhetoric. CJCRANE Sep 2012 #30

I heard it was a shoddily produced almost comical string of ridiculousness. dkf Sep 2012 #31

A lot of propaganda is ridiculous. CJCRANE Sep 2012 #34

So they should have been prosecuted too? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2012 #66

I didn't say anything about prosecuting the film maker or banning the video. CJCRANE Sep 2012 #67

I presume you'll be writing to the al-Islam Group, then MNBrewer Sep 2012 #49

I'm not writing to the maker of the video CJCRANE Sep 2012 #51

Al Qaeda propaganda certainly isn't worth the drone strikes we send out in response. Zalatix Sep 2012 #28

+1 L0oniX Sep 2012 #21

+100! nt Skip Intro Sep 2012 #37

Conspiracy to incite riots... Zalatix Sep 2012 #16

+1 L0oniX Sep 2012 #20

The film is not an incitement to riot cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #22

That's yesterday's definition. See: Oldspeak, aka crimethink. Zalatix Sep 2012 #29

Who would be in trouble in this situation? BarackTheVote Sep 2012 #25

I have to wonder if "Bacile" had permission from his parole officer to use a computer. MADem Sep 2012 #33

You have fallen into an all too common error cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #40

How so? BarackTheVote Sep 2012 #55

Please identify the statute you are applying jberryhill Sep 2012 #32

Did you even bother to read the OP? renie408 Sep 2012 #35

Your idea that ideas you disagree with are not ideas is horrifying cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #38

You don't get it Jessy169 Sep 2012 #43

You have no idea what expressive speech is, and repeating your error cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #47

You're wrong again Jessy169 Sep 2012 #53

Saying Islam is bullshit is expressive speech. cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #63

Inciting a riot is a crime. Getting people killed is a crime. aquart Sep 2012 #60

Not under that statute jberryhill Sep 2012 #41

I'm not an attorney Jessy169 Sep 2012 #44

You know a lot of attorneys are compulsives? jberryhill Sep 2012 #50

Forget "conspiracy"--you haven't defined the primary crime they are meant to have Romulox Sep 2012 #39

Case law? Are you crazy? jberryhill Sep 2012 #42

I would like to see some federal court decisions that back up your interpretations. former9thward Sep 2012 #45

We'll see about that Jessy169 Sep 2012 #46

So all I have to do to stop debate on a subject... FreeJoe Sep 2012 #57

In 1977 the Nazis decided to march in Skokie which is a Jewish suburb of Chicago. former9thward Sep 2012 #58

I see the issue as Free Speech shintao Sep 2012 #48

Why do you think the USCS applies to events happening overseas? ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #52

Does USCS apply to U.S. Consulates and Embassies overseas? Jessy169 Sep 2012 #54

Its the kind of question for law school exams...depends heavily on the situation. ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #56

So, it is settled Jessy169 Sep 2012 #59

You do have a First Amendment right to lie and slander, but you can be sued for civil damages (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #77

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Final note Jessy169 Sep 2012 #62

Until you go to Law School and learn COLGATE4 Sep 2012 #69

What are you saying? Jessy169 Sep 2012 #70

This isn't a game of 'which point of view do you like best'. COLGATE4 Sep 2012 #71

Duly noted. Jessy169 Sep 2012 #72

All protestations to the contrary, you are not really COLGATE4 Sep 2012 #80

You could not be more right. isisdianahecate369 Jan 2013 #83

"Fighting Words" example. Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #78

The people who aired the Rodney King video incited a riot. hughee99 Sep 2012 #64

People can make stupid movies gollygee Sep 2012 #65

What color is the sky in the world you live in? WillowTree Sep 2012 #74

There have been lots of discussions about this in the last day davidpdx Sep 2012 #75

Should Salman Rushdie have been arrested and charged? Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #76