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Jim__

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8. U.S. Stocks Slump After Fauci, Fed Set Somber Tone: Markets Wrap
Tue May 12, 2020, 04:23 PM
May 2020

From yahoo finance:

(Bloomberg) -- Stocks tumbled after a U.S. health official warned against a premature reopening of the economy and as traders assessed a dire outlook from Federal Reserve regional chiefs. Treasuries and the dollar climbed.

The S&P 500 extended losses as Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease official, said states reopening too quickly could “set you back on the road on trying to get economic recovery.” Meanwhile, some central bank officials said the virus outbreak and a partial shutdown would risk massive bankruptcies that could create a lasting scar. The Fed could curtail Wall Street banks’ ability to pay dividends by cranking up the amount of capital they need to maintain due to the coronavirus crisis, Governor Randal Quarles said Tuesday.

“You will get business failures on a grand scale and you will be taking risks that you would go into depression” if shutdowns persist, Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis President James Bullard said in a video speech from that city Tuesday. Minneapolis Fed President Neel Kashkari warned of a “gradual, muted recovery” from the outbreak, while Dallas Fed President Robert Kaplan said the economy will need more fiscal stimulus if the jobless rate continues to rise.

The disastrous fallout of business closures and stay-at-home orders caused an unprecedented 20.5 million job losses in April, tripling the unemployment rate to 14.7%, the highest since the Great Depression era of the 1930s. A key measure of U.S. consumer prices declined last month by the most on record. A sustained trend of declining prices would spur worries about deflation, exacerbating concern that the recovery from the deep economic downturn will be very slow.

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ALL down: elleng May 2020 #1
trump is still president spanone May 2020 #2
Maybe some company that makes yachts had to close for Covid? Takket May 2020 #3
Who knows? CountAllVotes May 2020 #4
It's bad, but if you're in the market, you should know not to watch daily ups and downs Bucky May 2020 #5
This chart gives a sense of what personal longterm investments should look like Bucky May 2020 #10
Thanks for the graph. Here's S&P 500 from 1928 on a logarithmic scale for a different kind of view progree May 2020 #17
How many people have 27 years to get their nose back to the waterline? Blue_true May 2020 #23
That's part of what's making me nervous about this market. Bucky May 2020 #26
If you are in your fifties maybe you should go to the sidelines. Blue_true May 2020 #27
I kind of did that already... Bucky May 2020 #28
Actually with reinvested dividends it took S&P 500 16 years to recover from Great Depression progree May 2020 #31
You make sound points. The main issue is how quickly a person will need retirement money and how Blue_true May 2020 #35
Actually, I had in mind the people who need their retirement money, not well-off people progree May 2020 #38
Again, it depends upon what a person has in retirement funds. Blue_true May 2020 #39
If a person needs much more than 4%/year withdrawal, all simulations show they are screwed (will progree May 2020 #40
That's one reason I don't like logarithmic scales for graphs Bucky May 2020 #25
I struggle a lot with which view is the more distorted one - linear or logarithmic progree May 2020 #32
It's the logarithmic scale that allows dips, or growth, to look the same whatever the date muriel_volestrangler May 2020 #33
I think the peak to trough drop in the Dow index was 89%, meaning $100 became $11, or progree May 2020 #34
Mmm, maybe the printers broke at the FED? Rstrstx May 2020 #6
Market was holding its own, until about 1p - when it collapsed 1.89%, empedocles May 2020 #7
U.S. Stocks Slump After Fauci, Fed Set Somber Tone: Markets Wrap Jim__ May 2020 #8
I did wonder about that malaise May 2020 #11
tRUMP will blame bluestarone May 2020 #9
***FAUCI !!! *** I've been saying for nearly 3 weeks Trump and ManureChin have been lying about uponit7771 May 2020 #12
THIS malaise May 2020 #13
I think the extended LA county stay-at-home order was a market mover as well Shermann May 2020 #14
True malaise May 2020 #15
June WTI futures contracts end Thursday MoonlitKnight May 2020 #16
The market is worried JmAln May 2020 #18
Interesting - at noon −497.38 malaise May 2020 #36
Fauci pretty much confirmed we're not re-opening anytime soon. tinrobot May 2020 #19
It might be more about several of the early reopening states ticking up in cases? herding cats May 2020 #29
The market will remain volatile until the COVID numbers drop or a promising drug or vaccine drops Algernon Moncrieff May 2020 #20
That's not what the Con and his goons are saying malaise May 2020 #37
Today was a minor move given the times we are in. Steelrolled May 2020 #21
Fleecing the unsuspecting again. Blue_true May 2020 #22
Stocks are way way way way overvalued Johnny2X2X May 2020 #24
Dumbasses gotta dumbass. Hugin May 2020 #30
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