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70. we are not living in a hidebound past, the Trumpian ascendance has forever changed POTUS/VPOTUS

Fri May 15, 2020, 02:39 AM

May 2020

dynamics.

There have been plenty of vastly experienced VP's who either lost in the general or were shit once elected throughout US history. A tonne of elected experience is no guarantee of anything.

And we will just have to agree to disagree on Abrams' raw talent and skills vis-a-vis some of the other possibles.

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Joe Biden and Stacey Abrams on Lawrence tonight at 10 ET [View all] CousinIT May 2020 OP

Will he announce anything else? Beaverhausen May 2020 #1

Abrams getting a real time audition DeminPennswoods May 2020 #2

Kick! ecstatic May 2020 #3

Stream links Celerity May 2020 #4

Is the video freezing up for anyone else? ecstatic May 2020 #5

no, it is fine for me, but I am on a net stream Celerity May 2020 #7

Thanks! Nt ecstatic May 2020 #8

yw! Celerity May 2020 #10

watching now bdamomma May 2020 #6

He's so good. And I'm actually glad they're bringing up Reade. nolabear May 2020 #9

He's doing great! backtoblue May 2020 #11

Me too, and I'm loved his answer: If you don't believe me, you shouldn't vote for me. flibbitygiblets May 2020 #14

Yep. At first I was annoyed and worried it might throw him off his game ecstatic May 2020 #15

Good to know, Nola.. what did BIden Cha May 2020 #23

Kept it simple. nolabear May 2020 #44

He just started official VP search 2 weeks ago, so I guess this must be a kind of "focus group" flibbitygiblets May 2020 #12

Stacey looks like she came to play! nolabear May 2020 #13

Joe is on his game tonight! Lady_Chat May 2020 #16

Ms Abrams is such an incredible communicator tishaLA May 2020 #17

She's terrific! I haven't heard her so much at length. nolabear May 2020 #18

Abrams would supercharge the AA and overall PoC vote, plus helps with GA, TX, FL, NC, VA, Celerity May 2020 #26

I agree, she would be wonderful. Demsrule86 May 2020 #28

I am pleaseantly surprised to see you say that, hugz Celerity May 2020 #29

I agree, just the kind of individual we should see in that position, elleng May 2020 #31

Kemp stealing the GA governorship in 2018 was the most egregious in plain sight election fraud Celerity May 2020 #34

Horrendous! elleng May 2020 #37

yes, and not a goddamn thing could be done! maddening Celerity May 2020 #39

No she wouldn't qazplm135 May 2020 #35

profoundly disagree Celerity May 2020 #38

First qazplm135 May 2020 #43

I am unconvinced by your counterpoints, sorry Celerity May 2020 #46

Of course you aren't qazplm135 May 2020 #47

what 'national' experience does a governor have, other than interfacing with the federal government Celerity May 2020 #50

She hasn't won qazplm135 May 2020 #51

not buying it, sorry (and you are wrong, not every one I listed has both) Celerity May 2020 #53

I ignored ridiculous options like Michelle Obama qazplm135 May 2020 #55

Whitmer, Rice (in terms of any elected office), Keisha Lance Bottoms, Sally Yates Celerity May 2020 #57

very little is MORE than none qazplm135 May 2020 #61

keep sliding those goalposts and pushing tosh (the Michelle Obama isn't qualified rot) Celerity May 2020 #63

Lol at speech contest qazplm135 May 2020 #66

again with the false framing and pure misrepresentation Celerity May 2020 #68

Of course you won't qazplm135 May 2020 #69

you really have a projection problem Celerity May 2020 #74

My own article qazplm135 May 2020 #81

again with the false framing and pettifogging and digressions Celerity May 2020 #84

Whitmer gave hers in 2020. Abrams was picked by Schumer as the only official Democratic Response Celerity May 2020 #77

Lol saying something isn't VP worthy qazplm135 May 2020 #78

Obama's came from the same thing, 3 year 10 months Celerity May 2020 #54

US Senator IS qazplm135 May 2020 #56

what are you on about? re-read my post Celerity May 2020 #59

Obama didn't run for President qazplm135 May 2020 #62

complete non sequitur Celerity May 2020 #65

Name the last person qazplm135 May 2020 #67

we are not living in a hidebound past, the Trumpian ascendance has forever changed POTUS/VPOTUS Celerity May 2020 #70

You were one of the big Buttigieg boosters qazplm135 May 2020 #71

My support of Buttigieg has nothing to do with my liking Abrams for VP. I have stated Abrams Celerity May 2020 #75

I wasn't inferring an ulterior motive qazplm135 May 2020 #76

That IS inferring an ulterior motive Celerity May 2020 #80

An ulterior motive is concealed qazplm135 May 2020 #82

I defended Buttigieg because I thought he was the best candidate, and I only took offense at Celerity May 2020 #85

She would be a poor choice Sugarcoated May 2020 #83

Speaking somewhat sarcastically but after Trump scarletlib May 2020 #88

ITA. And in addition to the African American vote, she would tishaLA May 2020 #36

minus the 2.6 billion dollar net worth, lolol Celerity May 2020 #40

The vast majority of white women qazplm135 May 2020 #45

Who asked her about why didn't she run for Senate? qazplm135 May 2020 #64

Good to see this. Why do you say she'd be a better choice? elleng May 2020 #42

They're both very impressive. highplainsdem May 2020 #19

great answer by Abrams on why she did not run for the Senate Celerity May 2020 #20

I didn't hear her answer,what did she say? Lady_Chat May 2020 #49

She said saw running ithe nationwide campaign to try and prevent nationwide voter suppression, Celerity May 2020 #52

Thank you, for responding! Lady_Chat May 2020 #58

yw! Celerity May 2020 #60

GA Abrams voter here. Imo, she refused a call to duty Hortensis May 2020 #73

Hallelujah! ecstatic May 2020 #21

I am SO glad Biden said he was not going to pardon or shut down any investigations into Rump Celerity May 2020 #22

Well there ya go! A few on here have been saying Cha May 2020 #24

Hi, Cha...he answered the question about prosecuting the current bad guys in office very well. Demsrule86 May 2020 #27

Wonderful! I always replied.. they didn't have any Cha May 2020 #30

Joe is doing great...I really do love the guy. People have been wanting a second "Roosevelt" Demsrule86 May 2020 #25

+100000 Celerity May 2020 #41

I've been very excited about Stacey Abrams since the first time I saw her. nocoincidences May 2020 #32

They were both very impressive. TomSlick May 2020 #33

They were, Joe needs to get out there more, he's terrific Green Line May 2020 #48

I don't know what getting out there means right now but I agree. TomSlick May 2020 #90

Most liked and disliked bdjhawk May 2020 #72

Too bad Biden can't get 2 VPs. I think Harris and Abrams are both great with him JI7 May 2020 #79

Really? Trumpocalypse May 2020 #86

The VP choice is about bringing in the vote Pompoy May 2020 #87

In an OP in February, I predicted Stacey, Baked Potato May 2020 #89