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SunSeeker

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5. We should do what South Korea did, not what Sweden did.
Sun May 17, 2020, 10:12 AM
May 2020

South Korea was able to avoid both a shut down and a high death toll. South Korea had their first confirmed case the same day we did. January 20. But they immediately started mass producing tests, and mobilized a national testing program by early February. Their early mass testing and contact tracing avoided the need for any lockdowns. They were able to quarantine just the infected. Their restaurants and factories stayed open. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/26/821688981/how-south-korea-reigned-in-the-outbreak-without-shutting-everything-down South Korea has lost only 262 people. That's a death rate of just 5.1 per 1 Million population. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/ 

Our population is 6.5 times South Korea's, so if we had done what South Korea did, our death total today would be 6.5×262=1,703, instead of 90,000. And our economy would not be in tatters.

But, alas, that would require a competent president, and we don't have that in one Donald J. Trump.

Trump wasted two months, January and February, downplaying Covid-19, instead of doing mass testing like the South Koreans He was given 2 months to catch up by our lockdown to ramp up testing in March and April. But he utterly failed and continues to fail. Trump refuses to invoke the DPA to mass produce tests like the South Koreans did. And without massive amounts of testing, we cannot do contact tracing and targeted quarantines. We don't even have a national plan to do that. We're pitiful. So we will and do have the worst of both worlds: a high death toll and a ruined economy.

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Well, We Still Did Something Wrong ProfessorGAC May 2020 #1
I agree with you but the you could also argue another angle genxlib May 2020 #2
I Agree With Both Of You ProfessorGAC May 2020 #11
Just as in compound interest, early adjustments make large differences at the end. Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #20
50% of Swedes live alone, the highest percentage of any country. SunSeeker May 2020 #3
39.2 percent of all households (and 17.8 percent of all people) here live alone Celerity May 2020 #18
I think the point is whether you "shut down" or not, Solomon May 2020 #4
We should do what South Korea did, not what Sweden did. SunSeeker May 2020 #5
THANK YOU !!! uponit7771 May 2020 #7
I think it's too early to draw that conclusion democrattotheend May 2020 #6
No, we can TTQ till a vaccine is made it will cost us little in time or money uponit7771 May 2020 #8
What's TTQ? democrattotheend May 2020 #9
Testing/Tracing/Quarintine like SK and 40 other nations have done that are out of the uponit7771 May 2020 #13
I'm surprised it hasn't been worse in Sweden DrToast May 2020 #10
Sweden was already socially distancing before the pandemic. SunSeeker May 2020 #15
You talk like there is no way to slow the spread through testing and contact tracing. SunSeeker May 2020 #14
Don't be so sure TheFarseer May 2020 #12
I've been positively disposed to a rational "get it over with" approach. LAS14 May 2020 #16
If we had the same death rate as South Korea, we'd only have 1,703 dead. SunSeeker May 2020 #19
We seem to be incapable of getting TheFarseer May 2020 #24
Trump won't invoke the Defense Production Act to mass produce tests. SunSeeker May 2020 #25
we may soon have a border dispute crisis, as the 3 main Scandinavian nations (us, Norway, Denmark) Celerity May 2020 #17
Denmark is sensible, even if their language is impossible, LOL. SunSeeker May 2020 #21
well, it cuts both ways in Denmark, not sure how many on this board like this: Celerity May 2020 #22
There is plenty of evidence masks work. SunSeeker May 2020 #23
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